Star Wars Books Thread
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Kinda/sorta, but not really.
Those were more "what if" stories, or stories about background characters, typically grouped around a specific scene. Both of which focused mostly on the movies as the main hook and reference point. What I'm thinking is something with a *much* broader canvas, from the ancient past, to the distant future, with everything in-between and most of it could even be outright lies.
If nothing else I think it really would help deepen the galactic culture of Star Wars, since that's something that's always seemed a little abstract and ill defined. The stories a culture tells itself, from the grand and mythical to the strange and banal are just as important as the factual history of said culture, sometimes even more so.
So yeah, I want to see a retelling of "The Legend of the Kyber Saber", the Mandalorian version of Robin Hood or Zorro. The 'Iliad' and 'Odyssey' of the pre-Old Republic galaxy and even things along the same lines as 'Tag and Bink'.
By making them stories told by people within the world of Star Wars instead of stories about the world of Star Wars, it allows writers and artists to go wild and be much more creative than they ever could otherwise.
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That is a really cool idea.
I'm at least hoping we'll eventually get something along the lines of the old Tales of the Jedi series. We've been getting bits and pieces of history in Rebels and the new movies, and I would love to see these bits and pieces put together into a story that gives us their full context.
Apparently, the main reason for ditching the EU was the death of Chewbacca. Although I imagine that there were many other considerations brought into play, I can see where this would be the biggest. How do you merchandise a dead Wookiee?
Same way your merchandise the remains of Alderaan. In very poor taste.
Leland followed up on that on twitter and said that was a personal reason why he was glad the EU was gone, not a reason why it was gone, and the decision was made before he joined the Story Group
https://twitter.com/HolocronKeeper/status/953000428928606208
https://twitter.com/HolocronKeeper/status/953003520285749248
https://twitter.com/HolocronKeeper/status/953005325409402880
And then Pablo Hidalgo reiterated after this that it was George Lucas who started that ball rolling when he started his versions of the ST.
https://twitter.com/pablohidalgo/status/952987820380991488
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Don't confuse the conversation with facts-my mind is made up!
Worth it.
Eliminating the "Tiers of Canon" silliness is one thing the New Canon has going for it.
The Holocron was pretty genius if you ask me. There is no other Expanded universe, or comic universe of equal size and complexity as consistent as Star Wars. A hierarchy makes sense. The books and comics are beholden to the films. (This is true even now, as many here have said.)
And the older 80's stuff, which wasn't attempting to have a single continuity anyway, is kept as reference material. The "what if" stories, which deserve to be published, are labeled noncanon.
And the older 80's stuff, which wasn't attempting to have a single continuity anyway, is kept as reference material. The "what if" stories, which deserve to be published, are labeled noncanon.
I think some people misinterpret the purpose of the holocron's "tiered canon" system. From what I've read it really wasn't about establishing a definitive canon because that already existed (aka: the movies!) it was to make it easier for the licence media people to reference other works and create a pecking order of sorts to quickly resolve the inevitable contradictions.
That worked great internally, but by making it public I think they kind of damaged how the various tie-in stories were regarded by fans. On certain subjects, it's damn near impossible to unpick a particular strand from it's source because over eager fans like to write comprehensive and narratively coherent wiki articles. That sounds like a good thing, but for example when a certain character's backstory may have been covered several times in different ways: instead of presenting those sources as is they're typically all thrown in together and recontextualisation through several layers of retcons in the name of being all-inclusive and that damned tier system. There's also a weird odour of fanboy snobbery that usually accompanies such things that just puts me off in general.
Since Disney decided that they wanted everything to be canon, it became a redundant system. So good riddance.
That worked great internally, but by making it public I think they kind of damaged how the various tie-in stories were regarded by fans. On certain subjects, it's damn near impossible to unpick a particular strand from it's source because over eager fans like to write comprehensive and narratively coherent wiki articles. That sounds like a good thing, but for example when a certain character's backstory may have been covered several times in different ways: instead of presenting those sources as is they're typically all thrown in together and recontextualisation through several layers of retcons in the name of being all-inclusive and that damned tier system. There's also a weird odour of fanboy snobbery that usually accompanies such things that just puts me off in general.
Since Disney decided that they wanted everything to be canon, it became a redundant system. So good riddance.
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You may not like it, but the same system is going to be in effect. The films will overwrite the books and comics, there will still be what if stories, and legends is now the secondary canon.
I'm not sure what Wookiepedia articles have to do with it. The Holocron is not a public database, and it's still being used, as it is a necessity for authors and the story advisers.
Also, the process in which EU authors write licensed works has not changed. Either the author or Lucasfilm has an idea for a story, the author and the story group meet and discuss ideas. The author sets about his/her task, then has their editor edit the book, then submits it to Lucasfilm for editing or revisions.
I'm not sure what Wookiepedia articles have to do with it. The Holocron is not a public database, and it's still being used, as it is a necessity for authors and the story advisers.
Also, the process in which EU authors write licensed works has not changed. Either the author or Lucasfilm has an idea for a story, the author and the story group meet and discuss ideas. The author sets about his/her task, then has their editor edit the book, then submits it to Lucasfilm for editing or revisions.
I have you read any of the new stuff?
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