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It is possible that the First Order itself is new and an organized force, but its predecessor was one of the Imperial factions that fled into the Unknown Regions. That faction could have considered itself part of the Empire for a decade or two, or even fallen apart over issues of Starkiller Base, Snoke, and the new Stormtrooper training program. These could have been multiple factions that reorganized as the First Order. An alliance of Imperial factions united under Snoke to project the ideals of Palpatine's New Order and get revenge on the "chaos" loving Republic.

We'll likely find out more later.
 
That's been my impression so far. If The First Order was built from some of the left over Imperial factions, maybe one of them was already working on Starkiller Base and TFO simply took it over once they absorbed that faction.
 
That seems to be the general impression. We know the new training program for Stormtroopers has to have been going on for at least two decades, if not three. A lot can happen in the 30 years since Endor.
 
I would assume that Snoke's First Order is only a few years old, but the Starkiller project had been worked on for decades by the Empire.
 
They could always sneak in a hint of its construction or planning into Rebels or some other project.
 
Really love the sense of humor in the Poe comic. "Should we go after them?" "Enh." :guffaw:

I'm a third of the way into Bloodlines. After all the hype I'm mildly disappointed in it so far, but it's good.
 
Bloodline is largely a meh novel. I don't know if it was the hype or having a raised bar to meet because of Lost Stars, but while passable entertainment, it didn't really blow me away.
 
I preferred Bloodline over Lost Stars, I finished the former and donated the latter to a charity shop having read less than a third of it.
 
The first third of Lost Stars is very generic and forgettable, but once they graduate the Academy it gets much more interesting and they start living through the events of the OT.

I'm halfway through Bloodline and it's picking up.
 
I know it was kind of trite in places, but I actually rather enjoyed 'Lost Stars'. I've always had a soft spot for stories that tell well known events from the PoV of those at the sidelines. Indeed, arguable Star Wars ANH is basically this since it more or less follows the droids the whole way though (an idea borrowed from the bickering peasants in Kurosawa's 'Hidden Fortress' for those that don't know.)

I tend to agree though, it didn't really pick up until it started crossing over with the movie events, but by that point I was hooked. It needed that first third though to really get to know the two protagonists and their background. Without it, the rest of the story wouldn't work at all. It may have helped that this aspect actually caught me by surprise as all I knew about the novel going in was that it somehow told the story of the Captain of that crashed Star Destroyer on Jakku. Sometimes it pays to have no expectations.

On the flip-side I went into 'Aftermath' expecting a good primer on the post RotJ galaxy and was disappointed by what felt like a scattershot approach to an anthology book that felt like it lacked context or significance. Ironically 'Lost Stars' did a better job of this too since it gave a glimpse at the chaos behind the scenes of the Empire right after the death of Vader & Palpatine.
That was rare even with the EU. Mostly all we got was the heroes' perspective, which was mostly "there's another jumped up Imperial Moff/Admiral/Warlord/pretender Emperor and he/she's after some super-weapon."

As for Bloodline...I thought it was OK. Surprised that it took place so close to the events of TFA, which gave the impression (perhaps unintentionally) that things all went sideways quite a bit more than just 6 years ago. The story itself was interesting though and the portrayal of Leia felt a lot more genuine than much of the old EU.
Also appreciated that they actually thought through what the divisions within the New Republic might be and not go the EU route of resorting to straight-up villainous senators to create artificial conflict.
I totally buy that many worlds (particularly the core worlds) want a slide back to the centrist security of the old Empire and latter day old Republic, while others (mostly former Separatist worlds) would be distrustful of centralised power and the old core world ruling classes. Both sides are valid and both sides are open to being pushed to serve a corrupt agenda.

It was also a nice touch having Ryloth remain independent. Given it's history, who could blame them? I think fans sometimes need reminding that the Star Wars galaxy isn't all one civilisation, but *millions* of co-existing ones and not all of them want to be in the Republic.
 
Just finished Bloodline! It was pretty good, but I'm still waiting for that amazing four star epic Star Wars novel in the new continuity. THIS was the book I wanted to read when the movie came out. It did a great job of setting up the political climate while still leaving a lot of mystery.

It's pretty funny (and sad. and chilling.) how closely this book mirrored the Democrats and Republicans right now.

One thing really confused me though. In the book they said the New Republic was almost every system in the galaxy except for a few independent holdouts. I thought there was a sizeable Imperial Remnant lurking in the Outer Rim? Even if that's something that comes into being between Bloodline and TFA, those billions of Imperial hardliners were seriously a part of the New Republic for twenty years? That really bothered me; just one altered line could have established there was still a proper Imperial rump state out there...
 
We still don't have the full picture yet, but as I understand it about a year after Endor the last of the Imperial fleet rallied at Jakku before fleeing into the Unknown Regions. When they all ran the remaining Imperial loyalist worlds were exposed with no means to resist the Alliance fleet, so they signed an armistice ceasing all hostilities. They agreed to being limited to those few worlds that were left, to cease any further military build-up, abolishing slavery & torture, cede all claim to Coruscant and abandon the Imperial Academies. They also became members of the new galactic senate and it seems the core of the centrist movement. Later, at the end of the book we see that they secede and join the First Order--the remnants of the fleet that had spent the last several decades carving out a new Empire out in uncharted space.

It's worth remembering that it's a big damn galaxy with well over a million inhabited worlds. In all that, even several hundred Imperial worlds are fairly inconsequential in the grand scheme. So yeah, "nearly every system" probably does still potentially leave a few hundred or even thousands of systems either neutral or still part of the Imperial Remnant.
 
So, when "Bloodline" talks about the New Republic encompassing almost every system in the galaxy, I guess I'm just supposed to assume they're not referring to the Uncharted Regions? Makes sense but it still needed to be said in the book.
 
So, when "Bloodline" talks about the New Republic encompassing almost every system in the galaxy, I guess I'm just supposed to assume they're not referring to the Uncharted Regions? Makes sense but it still needed to be said in the book.

Well it's like saying something like "the whole world saw such-and-such an event", which is on the face of it damn near impossible, but it's a given that it's not meant to be taken literally, down to the last person. Or just the phase "every country in the world" in reference to *anything* is inherently troublesome since there's always a certain percentage of countries who's status or very existence is in flux. And yet it's a common enough phrase since the alternative would be pedantic.

So yeah, in Star Wars when they say "nearly every system in the galaxy", it's best to take the word "galaxy" not as a geographic (astrographic?) label, but more of an abstract idea the same way we might say "the world". It's all encompassing, but not really when you get into the shockingly numerable caveats and exceptions.
In regards to the Star Wars galaxy, there are plenty of fringe regions, isolated pockets and long forgotten planets that the idea that "every planet" can even be accounted for is dubious at best. Yet, the phase would logically be in common use since everyone knows what it really means. What goes unsaid is every planet *that matters*.

All of that is not even counting the massive swath of the western end of the galactic disc referred to as the Unknown Regions, every last little backwater in the Outer Rim, the lost colonies, primitive worlds, uncharted systems too far off the hyperlanes to be worth bothering with, the isolated regions of Wild Space or anything in-between.
 
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