I may not care for Mara Jade but her death pissed even me off and Jacen's fall was pretty much the end for me with the books.
Star Wars Books Thread
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You would be very surprised at the ending, let me tell you that.
Thing is, Fate of the Jedi has ADHD; subplots pop up then disappear. The whole main point of the series changes part-way through. Most of the important developments are undone by the end and there's no real resolution to anything. Say what you will about Legacy of the Force, but there was a clear story arc from beginning to end that was a cohesive whole (with one noted exception I'll list below). (Bear in mind, I have little love for Legacy.)
Honestly, I found those books to be self-indulgent. Beyond Jaina going to him for training (which made little sense), the Boba Fett stuff had nothing to do with the actual story of the series (seriously, Traviss was the only one who did anything with that). The Fett stuff should've been cut from the series and those pages used for the story the series was actually telling.
Haven't read the novelization, but Most Wanted is okay. It's basically the only place where Han and Qu'ira's relationship is set up, so if you want that, this's your thing.
A new full-cast audio-only book will feature the backstory of Count Dooku and Asajj Ventress.
https://www.theverge.com/platform/a...x9MuEAYfEyfga-_zLeOQAz1mAuGwzgFJMy0rbb2yEnpxM
https://www.theverge.com/platform/a...x9MuEAYfEyfga-_zLeOQAz1mAuGwzgFJMy0rbb2yEnpxM
I really hope they bring back the Clone Wars cast members for the preexisting characters. At this point it would just be to weird to hear other people voicing those characters.
I have to confess, when I think of Obi-Wan, Anakin, and Padme, I think of the voices of James Arnold Taylor, Matt Lanter, and Catherine Taber more than I do Ewan McGregor, Hayden Chistensen, and Natalie Portman.
I have to confess, when I think of Obi-Wan, Anakin, and Padme, I think of the voices of James Arnold Taylor, Matt Lanter, and Catherine Taber more than I do Ewan McGregor, Hayden Chistensen, and Natalie Portman.
Interesting. Wonder if it'll have a CD release or be digital only.
The article about it on StarWars.com includes some of the cast and none of them are The Clone Wars cast members, so that is a bit disappointing.
First, with my own book stuff I haven't built up the will to read any more of Phasma. Its so pointless and generally worthless that I might just go on to From a Certain Point of View, which seems much more interesting then the Phasma book that doesn't star or really have anything to do with the character of Captain Phasma. Anyway,
Looking at wookiepedia, the ending of Inferno Squad is...the main character is still a psychotic Imperial. A few members of Inferno Squad seem to have died, but she doesn't and she doesn't change sides or anything. She's the exact same character at the end that she is at the beginning, an Imperial stooge so obsessive that Palpatine would tell her to calm down with the Empire worship. Its fine if you like that, but I don't.
The Fett stuff was great, made complete sense, and was the only stuff worth reading from that whole series. It was in no way self indulgent, it was good storytelling that happened to tie into another book series that the author was writing. The other stuff in the series wasn't worth telling, but even if it was the Boba Fett stuff worked with everything else.
Looking at wookiepedia, the ending of Inferno Squad is...the main character is still a psychotic Imperial. A few members of Inferno Squad seem to have died, but she doesn't and she doesn't change sides or anything. She's the exact same character at the end that she is at the beginning, an Imperial stooge so obsessive that Palpatine would tell her to calm down with the Empire worship. Its fine if you like that, but I don't.
The Fett stuff was great, made complete sense, and was the only stuff worth reading from that whole series. It was in no way self indulgent, it was good storytelling that happened to tie into another book series that the author was writing. The other stuff in the series wasn't worth telling, but even if it was the Boba Fett stuff worked with everything else.
I do think that From a Certain Point of View is the better of the two, but Phasma is more "important." As far as the book having nothing to do with the main character, it actually does, it's just that we see her from other people's perspectives. When you get to the end, the reason for that creative decision makes a lot of sense.
I find it hysterical that you're telling me I'm wrong about the book despite the fact that I'm the only one of us who's read the darn thing. The character is not a "psychotic Imperial" or "fanatical Empire worshiper" or whatever and I'm speaking as a first-hand witness.
Maybe?
I did find the Fett stuff more interesting, I will concede that. I don't have a problem with it tying into another book series as well. But it's utter lack of solid ties to the series its actually a part of is a huge problem. If Traviss wanted Fett stuff in the series, it should've been integrated into the actual plot
Kinda retroactively. Fett's stuff with his family (except for his kid getting killed by Jacen) had nothing to do with the main story. Fett isn't needed until Jaina goes to learn how to kill her brother (which is incredibly forced, given that Force battles are the Jedi's area of expertise). The rest of it was just another series stuffed into the books. Notice how until Traviss is the only one to use Fett until Jaina gets involved?
As far as the main series not being worth the telling, I can't say that you're wrong, but since the series was made and the story told, it should've used all its space for itself, not dead weight that belonged in a series all on its own.
I haven't played BF II yet, but after it came out I did kind of skim a bit of the plot info on Wookiepdia, and the reason Iden doesn't change sides is because that happens in the game. I don't know the details since I just skimmed, but I did see stuff about her being a Rebel and interacting with some of the OT characters.
Well, I'm not getting to the end of it, and looking at Wookiepedia the book doesn't add anything to the universe and basically nothing to the character, so
I am a witness to her and her family being psychotic Imperial worshipers, and wookiepedia maintains that she stays the same at the end of the book. The woman has no will of her own. She'd chop off her hand to feed a hungry ranking officer if it was even hinted that the Officer wanted her to do it. Darth vader is not as obsessive about being an Imperial as she is. Tarkin would be considered a rebel compared to the main character and her family. It would have been funny if it wasn't the most infuriatingly lazy writing of an Imperial character that I had ever tried to read.
If she changes sides in the game, the book doesn't just not set that up, it pretty much seems to make that impossible. The book was so badly done it makes me wonder if one side knew what the other was doing when it came to making the book tie into the game
Well, I'm not getting to the end of it, and looking at Wookiepedia the book doesn't add anything to the universe and basically nothing to the character, so
Funny, that book is basically the only source to date (plus the comic), where you get to see who Pahasma actually is; everywhere else she has her mask up, literally and figuratively.
That's not how the book ends.
What the frak book did you read? Nothing you've described fits with the book as is?
Or maybe skipping the book also skipped the connective tissue that bridged the gap?
Funny, that book is basically the only source to date (plus the comic), where you get to see who Pahasma actually is; everywhere else she has her mask up, literally and figuratively.
Wookiepedia is more informative about Phasma then her self titled book is. Maybe with her being dead in the movies, they can produce a real book about her, where she is the focus of the book and there are no shitty side characters telling/listening to stories about her. Maybe if Phasma was actually interesting I'd be nicer to it, but its just terrible, instantly forgettable side characters telling/listening to pointless stories about the title character.
Anyway, I'll be moving on to From a Certain Point of View which, as an anthology, should have at least a few good stories, even if they aren't relevant.
The book ends with her just as rabidly, irrationally loyal as she started, same with her family. Again, its fine if you like that, but it infuriates me. I'm not asking for a defection to the rebels, I just wanted the characters to do anything besides just mindlessly worship the Empire.
I read the book starring an Imperial toady who would probably lick a Moff's boots clean if they asked her to, and would be thankful for the opportunity. She's not even an entertainingly over the top evil villain, she's a pathetic, mindless Imperial minion. Most stories would get huge complaints for having so one dimensional a character without having anything interesting to back the character up (like being entertainingly evil).
i read everything important that happened in that book, thanks to wookiepedia. I also just read the games events, and the Iden in that game is hilariously incompatible with the book version, who would have been giddy to do what the game character was ordered to do. The game's story seems pretty garbage to, but I'd expect that from a modern EA produced game.
Anyway, who cares? Inferno Squad is a terrible book with bad characters, but compared to Lost Stars its just nothing. Its not worth thinking about or discussing, really. Its not the worst SW book, although its one of the worst in my opinion.
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No they're not. Don't generalize.
You haven't read the damn book. He did. He's right, you're wrong.
Anyways she does defect to the Rebels in Battlefront 2.
It is compiling information from other sources as well, not just one account.
She is the focus of the book. Seeing her though the eyes of Vi and Cardinal is literary device, and one that works well in this instance and with this character. I will concede that the novel does have some slow parts, but overall, this's a pretty well-done character-driven book, IMHO.
Whatever you say.
What's wrong with not being "relevant?"
It factually does not.
Good for you then that that's not how the book ends.
So, you were reading the Jedi Academy books then? Don't blame you, I don't think they've aged really well, either.
A summary is never a substitute for the real deal.
You have a really warped view of that book that has no basis in reality.
I see.
I'm really trying to just ignore you at this point, but this is just so hilarious I can't ignore it. I just looked at the citations on the Wookiepedia article, and almost half the article is taken from the Phasma novel.
So it sounds like it reveals a lot more about her than you think.
EDIT: I forgot to mention before that StarWars.com has posted an excerpt from Mast & Apprentice.
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