What do you think?
I was surprised to see a teenage girl fight Grevious!
That was kinda shocking!
I was surprised to see a teenage girl fight Grevious!
That was kinda shocking!
Star Wars 1x07 "Duel of the Droids"
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They're getting pretty good with the FX/animation work.
And next week? The return of Jar Jar Binks! The Horror!!!!
And next week? The return of Jar Jar Binks! The Horror!!!!
I really enjoyed it. It had a lot of great action and Artoo duels with Goldie. Pretty cool stuff.
They say there are no shocks on this show but my jaw dropped when Grievous impaled that scavenger. Definitely wasn't expecting that. Between that and busting up the clones, Grievous got some badass points tonight. The Grievous murder, the episode Rookies, and the droids cutting the clones into space shows they are not afraid of showing death on this show. That's for sure.
The storyline does lose a point because, as Christopher pointed out in the prior episode, because it made the heroes look stupid by not suspecting Goldie earlier.
They say there are no shocks on this show but my jaw dropped when Grievous impaled that scavenger. Definitely wasn't expecting that. Between that and busting up the clones, Grievous got some badass points tonight. The Grievous murder, the episode Rookies, and the droids cutting the clones into space shows they are not afraid of showing death on this show. That's for sure.
The storyline does lose a point because, as Christopher pointed out in the prior episode, because it made the heroes look stupid by not suspecting Goldie earlier.
Yeah, Grievous's murder of the scavenger guy was surprising. I believe that's the first overt on-camera death of a living being that we've seen on this show. We've seen clone-manned ships get blown up, and we've seen clone troopers get gobbled by monsters and fall in battle and stuff, but I think this was the most explicitly violent thing we've seen in this show.
Anyway, the character animation is still improving; there was good facial animation here, especially on Ahsoka. The animation of the Jedi characters in action was very good, again particularly in Ahsoka's case.
Kinda weird to see a fight scene between a couple of rolling fireplugs, but I actually sort of enjoyed seeing R2 take down the spy droid. Still annoyed by the attitude toward droids here. Even Anakin, who values R2 as a friend and risks his life to save him, still refers to him as "something that belongs to me." So... he's your friend that you own? That makes his determination to rescue Artoo seem not so much noble as pathetic, the attitude of an overgrown child who can't let go of his toys. Although it is in character for the future Darth Vader, the man who's unable to let go of his attachments and thus is vulnerable to the covetousness and ambition of the dark side. Except here it's portrayed more as a heroic trait than the hamartic flaw we know it is.
Anyway, the character animation is still improving; there was good facial animation here, especially on Ahsoka. The animation of the Jedi characters in action was very good, again particularly in Ahsoka's case.
Kinda weird to see a fight scene between a couple of rolling fireplugs, but I actually sort of enjoyed seeing R2 take down the spy droid. Still annoyed by the attitude toward droids here. Even Anakin, who values R2 as a friend and risks his life to save him, still refers to him as "something that belongs to me." So... he's your friend that you own? That makes his determination to rescue Artoo seem not so much noble as pathetic, the attitude of an overgrown child who can't let go of his toys. Although it is in character for the future Darth Vader, the man who's unable to let go of his attachments and thus is vulnerable to the covetousness and ambition of the dark side. Except here it's portrayed more as a heroic trait than the hamartic flaw we know it is.
It was kind of telegraphed by the parental warning five seconds earlier.
And let me add to the "Gyyyyyyyyyyyaaaaaaaaaaaahhhh!" reaction over next week's Jar-Jar episode.
My dog is my friend and I own him. "Man's best friend". R2D2's relationship with Anakin, and later Luke, seems very similar to a pet and its owner. While there is ownership most pet owners refer to them as friends and buddies. Like R2 Dogs often act like they are the ones in control...and sometimes they are!
Yeah, I agree with this. That just struck me as wrong, the only down point in how the relationship between Anakin and Artoo was portrayed.
I know they kept flashing that parental warning but I still never expected that murder.
This was another great episode that really invoked that classic Star Wars feel. Anytime you've got Jedi running around inside the enemy ship I'm happy. Ashoka being stalked by Grievous was great. R2 vs. R3 as the station plummets through the atmo was great. Grievous stabbing the guy through the heart with his saber on a kiddie show was shocking.
I can't wait to see Jar Jar again, as horrible as he is
I'm anxious to see just how awful they're going to portray him.
Now that one second Jar Jar cameo in ROTS, are we SURE that wasn't just another Gungan? Maybe Jar Jar can finally die in the cartoon
I can't wait to see Jar Jar again, as horrible as he is
I'm anxious to see just how awful they're going to portray him.Now that one second Jar Jar cameo in ROTS, are we SURE that wasn't just another Gungan? Maybe Jar Jar can finally die in the cartoon
Something to keep in mind about Anakin's relationship with Artoo is that this droid isn't just his friend (thought the pet analogy is a perfect one). Artoo was also a gift from his wife, and with their obligations and the war keeping them so far apart, the little droid is Anakin's one tangible connection to her despite them having a galaxy separating them.
You see a hint of this in "Downfall of a Droid". Anakin can't explain, even to Ahsoka, why going after Artoo is so very important to him. He has to come up with the excuse that it's because Artoo's carrying information vital to the war effort.
Well, since they didn't indicate that in the actual episode, there's no way to know that unless you have an encyclopedic knowledge of the franchise. If something's significant to the episode's story, it needs to be referenced in the story itself. Even if Anakin couldn't tell the other characters, there should've been a flashback or an internal-monologue voiceover or something to put that idea across.
I'm still Tivo-ing... I'm hoping they'll repeat the first couple of episodes that I forgot to record. I plan on sitting down and watching the entire season in one sitting.
(I just had de ja vu for some reason)
(I just had de ja vu for some reason)
Siwilliams
Fleet Captain
Enjoying the series so far, and wonder if there is any news on the other Star Wars series. Star Wars Insider has had some updates
I don't know that it was necessary to spell it out. For starters, the story works without that knowledge (like others in the thread have said, Artoo is like a beloved pet, a friend, but also your property in some sense). Also, even if you weren't aware that Padme gave Artoo to Anakin as a gift, it doesn't take much to figure that out on your own. In Episode I and II, Artoo belongs to Padme. In The Clone Wars and Episode III, Artoo belongs to Anakin. Unless Anakin's in the habit of stealing things from his wife, the little droid became a gift (and in fact, Artoo and Threepio were essentially "wedding rings" that the pair exchanged on their wedding day).
But as you yourself pointed out, it makes more sense with that knowledge. I said I found Anakin's loyalty to a droid he explicitly described as a piece of property seemed kind of pathetic. You pointed out that his motives were more comprehensible in light of Artoo's sentimental value to him. So that information was necessary to get the full sense of the story's character arc, and that's more important than the surface details of the plot. If I can't understand or relate to the characters' motivations, then the story doesn't work.
You're just illustrating my point. You're familiar enough with the SW universe to remember that Artoo was in Padme's possession in the first two movies. Now that I think about it, I have some vague recollections to that effect, but I don't have that kind of information at the front of my mind, since I didn't enjoy the prequels enough to watch them more than once in the theater and maybe a second time on TV years ago.
Besides, it isn't good writing to require the audience to figure things out based on their knowledge of other stories. A well-structured story contains all necessary information within the story itself. If something from another story is relevant to its plot, then it should include a reminder rather than assuming the viewer or reader has seen that other story and remembers its details.
This series continues to get better and better. I do wonder, however, how many times Greivous can fly off in failure before he gets the big smackdown from Dooku or Sidious.
Ahsoka has really grown on me over the last few episodes. They've toned down her more obnoxious traits from the movie and first few episodes, or maybe we're just seeing her naturally mature over time. I'm thinking it's going to be painful to lose "Snips" when Order 66 comes down.
Mark
Ahsoka has really grown on me over the last few episodes. They've toned down her more obnoxious traits from the movie and first few episodes, or maybe we're just seeing her naturally mature over time. I'm thinking it's going to be painful to lose "Snips" when Order 66 comes down.
Mark
Anikan should have been defrocked and cashiered for all this bunk.
It's no wonder he runs off the deep end and starts slaughtering younglings.
Actually.
Given how FUCKING annoying that Ahsoka gal is, her nagging probably made it real easy fro Anikan to slice up all those children in the following movie.
by the way...
When do we get to see an episode focussed on Palpatine schizophrenically directing both the clones and droids into each other as their ultimate leader?
It's no wonder he runs off the deep end and starts slaughtering younglings.
Actually.
Given how FUCKING annoying that Ahsoka gal is, her nagging probably made it real easy fro Anikan to slice up all those children in the following movie.
by the way...
When do we get to see an episode focussed on Palpatine schizophrenically directing both the clones and droids into each other as their ultimate leader?
We don't know if Snips is going to suffer the same fate. There were some survivors and it's possible she's one of the ones in hiding.
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