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Star Trek XIV: What do you want?

What would you like from the next Star Trek movie?

  • Paramount+ tie in

    Votes: 11 9.0%
  • Kelvin continuation

    Votes: 62 50.8%
  • New crew

    Votes: 18 14.8%
  • TNG Reboot

    Votes: 6 4.9%
  • Prime continuation

    Votes: 11 9.0%
  • New TOS reboot

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • other (write below)

    Votes: 14 11.5%

  • Total voters
    122
Existing and being standard/commonplace are 2 very different things.
Yup. It always blows my mind the assumptions that are made around technology. Because you did it once it must happen all the time.

Except it didn't. Khan's blood did not "cure death." McCoy had to work overtime and did multiple transfusions to save Kirk's life. It was not an easy process. Scotty almost died due to the transwarp beaming being imprecise.
 
I recall quite a bit of "where's Number One" back then too.
There was a lot of that -- so many threads, in fact, insisting this or that character had to be in the movie, that:
A) I had to combine them into a single super-thread to keep them from crowding everything else out
B) if all of them had actually been included for just a cameo moment, one after another after another, the movie would have been 17 hours long and would have had no room for a story.

Gary Mitchell was on a lot of people's minds, though, as someone who absolutely had to be there.

Transwarp beaming from planet to planet exists, which makes starships obsolete as it is, and BEY basically ignored it.
Transwarp beaming--as depicted on the screen--existed as a one-off means of sending one or two people, maximum, with substantial risk and uncertain accuracy.

You'd have to explain how that constitutes any kind of a replacement for starships capable of carrying hundreds of people (plus thousands of tons of apparatus, supplies and other cargo) to multiple destinations, over a lengthy period of time, in relative safety.

But that would be outside the scope of this thread. You could put it in a thread dedicated to the topic, though.
 
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It's math.

How do you confiscate math?
1. Lock out the formula from all Starfleet tech

2. It's Section 31, they might even go as far as to mind tampering

The film just has Scotty say, "First they confiscate my transwarp equation, and now some madman is using it to hop across the galaxy!" so it's established that they did. How is up to the imagination.
 
Well, it's likely not the kind of thing the average person could memorize, a la a2 + b2 = c2 .

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The film just has Scotty say, "First they confiscate my transwarp equation, and now some madman is using it to hop across the galaxy!" so it's established that they did. How is up to the imagination.
He can just re-derive it. It's not like they Men In Blacked him.
 
Scotty Prime discovered the equation, as a product of his knowledge and experience at the time in the prime universe. Spock Prime gave it to Kelvin Scotty, although, to be fair, KS is able to understand it somewhat at this point ("Imagine that. It never occurred to me to think of space as the thing that was moving."). He hasn't had a chance to study it in depth and derive it himself, though, just quickly apply it to the situation at hand.
 
Again, Section 31 may have rigged the computers so reject any transwarp input. The formula won't work, attempts to recreate the formula are ruined.

It's like everyone's sci-fi imaginations stop working when it comes to slagging off a plot point they don't like. These guys were going to mind sift Spock in Discovery season 2. They put Bashir through hell as a "test" in DS9. I'm pretty sure if they want it "confiscated", they'll have a way.
 
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