So are we going to have to calling this guys "Olive Shirts"?
Perhaps they're the waiters in the bar?
Perhaps they're the waiters in the bar?
Star Trek XI Spy Photos
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He plays Spock, obviously. Same characters, same situations, completely rebooted. Ever watch the new Battlestar Galactica?
And yes, I am a genius. My IQ is close to 200.
Here is my guess what the top parts of the uniforms look like. Just a doodle. Phaser/communicator are just for fun.
Ok, genius, then explain the reasoning that leads you to "total reboot" when that contradicts every statement made by the producers thus far.
Then go look up the word "humility."
I submit that you are some kid in Arizona who doesn't know any more about this film than anyone else and is simply (and arrogantly) forwarding his own assumptions and opinions as fact.
Then go look up the word "humility."
I submit that you are some kid in Arizona who doesn't know any more about this film than anyone else and is simply (and arrogantly) forwarding his own assumptions and opinions as fact.
My only issue is with your making statements of fact when you have no actual information on which to base those facts... though I'll admit your citation of your own IQ annoyed me. The overall effect of your pat statements and patronizing tone is one of arrogance. Buddy.
who the hell cares whether its a reboot or whatever. its a friggin new star trek movie!
Because the uniforms are different?
Uh Huh.
Obviously the movie's about Druids. Sure, you could argue that the Asian guy in the pictures doesn't look Druish, but Star Trek has always been about inclusion.
Sure those aren't shots of tourists about to board the Maid of the Mists?
For some pedantic reason, I've always carped about how it'd be SO KEWL if Abrams went ahead made the command color green as it was meant to be.
And there it is, darkened down green shirts there. And darker blue ones, too. Of course, who knows?
The ages of the extras look less like cadets and more like crew members to me.
For some pedantic reason, I've always carped about how it'd be SO KEWL if Abrams went ahead made the command color green as it was meant to be.
And there it is, darkened down green shirts there. And darker blue ones, too. Of course, who knows?
The ages of the extras look less like cadets and more like crew members to me.
Yeah, exactly my thinking. They can certainly ignore or augment visual continuity without scrapping all of Star Trek canon.CorporalClegg said:
Because the uniforms are different?
Uh Huh.
You might see them throwing out the bathwater, but I don't think there's any indication that the bay's gone, too.
I am not an image-editing/enhancing expert by any means, so I may seem ignorant to ask this, but there is one shot of a lady assistant of some sort, standing on that landing at the tops of the concrete stairs. She is holding a blue piece of paper, and it is facing the camera. I cropped, rotated and zoomed this image to get a close-up view, and it's just too fuzzy, you can't make out what's on it.
It may be nothing more than the invoice for the extra's lunch order. Or it might be something else. Some kind of schedule or checklist? Something that might be interesting to see?
But, like I said, not knowing anything about image-enhancing, I don't know if there's even enough digital information there to make it any clearer.
But if somebody out there is a real guru at image-enhancing, please see what you can determine. I'm very curious about what's on that blue piece of paper.
From the zoomed-in version I was able to do, it looks like it has some kind of letterhead or logo at the top that looks like the initials M A D (or maybe it's B A D, as in Bad Robots?) I don't know, it's just fanboy spec.
What do you think?
Edit: The more I look at it the more it looks like MAD or MAP, and I swear I see the Paramount logo in the upper-left corner.
It may be nothing more than the invoice for the extra's lunch order. Or it might be something else. Some kind of schedule or checklist? Something that might be interesting to see?
But, like I said, not knowing anything about image-enhancing, I don't know if there's even enough digital information there to make it any clearer.
But if somebody out there is a real guru at image-enhancing, please see what you can determine. I'm very curious about what's on that blue piece of paper.
From the zoomed-in version I was able to do, it looks like it has some kind of letterhead or logo at the top that looks like the initials M A D (or maybe it's B A D, as in Bad Robots?) I don't know, it's just fanboy spec.
What do you think?
Edit: The more I look at it the more it looks like MAD or MAP, and I swear I see the Paramount logo in the upper-left corner.
I hate to be the one to point this out but Abrams has been known to mess with people's heads. (Look at the marketing and secrecy around Cloverfield. Most people aren't even sure that is the real title for pity's sake.) These "spy" pictures could be a plant and what little we see hanging out of those rain slickers a tease to throw the fans off. I think it would be prudent to second guess everything until the movie actually comes out.
However, if we are to believe that these are the real thing than why can't they be a version of the uniform that came before the one we are familiar with. (And you also need to remember that colors often print differently on certain film stocks depending how they are lit by the cinematographer. Just because they look olive in a photograph taken by a cellphone in daylight doesn't mean they will appear that color on film.)
Besides my mother had a saying. Thought thought he was going to fart but instead he shit so jumping to conclusions can sometimes lead you to filling your pants.
It is better to have all the information first so you don't embarrass yourself.
However, if we are to believe that these are the real thing than why can't they be a version of the uniform that came before the one we are familiar with. (And you also need to remember that colors often print differently on certain film stocks depending how they are lit by the cinematographer. Just because they look olive in a photograph taken by a cellphone in daylight doesn't mean they will appear that color on film.)
Besides my mother had a saying. Thought thought he was going to fart but instead he shit so jumping to conclusions can sometimes lead you to filling your pants.
It is better to have all the information first so you don't embarrass yourself.I guess GR's vision wasn't futuristic enough because we know what the future is gonna be much better now that we're so much more closer to it. J.J. has been seduced by the dark side I tell you. I mean if the cleverest guy on the planet is not more clever than Roddenberry, who is ?
Plenty of room before and after The Cage for uniform changes imo...
Of course, if they're filming old Spock's scenes first, wouldn't that mean late 24th or early 25th Century uniforms?
Of course, if they're filming old Spock's scenes first, wouldn't that mean late 24th or early 25th Century uniforms?
Yep, I LOOOOOVE all the "authorities" here.Dale Hoppert said:
You speak with remarkable authority for a guy who doesn't know a damned thing for sure... just like the rest of us.
What we know is that:
1) They have boots that are not "conventional" dress boots (not a bad decision to make... these look pretty practical, actually).
2) The uniforms seem to be either the green/gold or the blue, no red present (indicating, but not PROVING, that this is consistent with the pre-TOS setting).
3) There is no black collar. The collars are the same color as the uniform tunics (also consistent with pre-TOS), but are not "turtlenecks" or crewnecks, exactly.
4) There's SOME indication that there are skirts, pants the same color as the tunics, and pants that are different colors than the tunics. Hard to say what's what.
What we DON'T KNOW is who these people are or what they're supposed to be representing.
a) Starfleet cadets?
b) servicing Starfleet enlisted personnel?
c) serving Starfleet officers?
d) Members of some other organization?
e) Civilians?
f) Vulcans before having their ears stuck on?
g) Romulans (same as above)?
h) Cult members, dammit?
Basically, we don't know much. But we can assume that if these are Starfleet officers, they're closer to the Pike-era designs than to anything else we've seen. Which is a GOOD thing, IMHO.
I don't think Matt realizes that he's far from alone in the "high-IQ" camp around here (my last test, about two years ago, gave me an IQ of 189.... which doesn't mean a damned thing, really, except that I do well on IQ tests!
)This whole board is FULL of some very very smart people (part of why I tend to hang out here... even if I sometimes don't agree with folks, it's always intellectually stimulating!)
The reality is this: from the day this was announced, certain folks (as I recall, Matt among them) have been clamoring in favor of a "total reboot."
And like with ALL strongly held preconceptions, he now sees everything through the prism of his own wishes. If it COULD indicate any deviation from existing Trek canon, it MUST therefore clearly indicate a total reboot.
Having a high IQ has NOTHING to do with BELIEFS... and there are plenty of people with high IQs who are nevertheless totally out of touch with reality regarding key elements of reality. Belief... especially in political, religious, or "pseudo-religious" areas (that last, for example, includes the hard-doctrinal state of the current "debate" over "Global Warming (tm)" ), always trumps logic. This doesn't mean that any of those beliefs can't be in accordance with logic and reason and fact... only that they exist without the NEED to be consistent with logic or reason or fact. Logic goes out the window when what you WANT to believe comes into play.
That, of course, is senseless. All this indicates is that some actors on a set are wearing uniforms which are not exactly like uniforms we've seen before. This could easily be set in the EXACT SAME CONTINUITY (but two years out from anything else we've seen). After all, we all know that Starfleet changes uniforms frenetically.
Unless we're shown the same folks at the same point in the same situation, but wearing different uniforms, this means NOTHING.
Which, by the way, doesn't prove that it's NOT a reboot, either. You could do a "total reboot" and still keep the original series uniforms, unchanged.
Most likely, this is a minor revision of Pike-era costumes, but there's no way to know right now. And since the ACTORS aren't the same, well... I mean, how could they NOT clone Jeff Hunter to play Pike??? DAMN THEM!!!!
I just saw these photos and thought:
'Meh, no big deal. Just some hooded guys and gals walking around. Surely there's nothing to be gleaned from this!'
And then I pop over to good ol' TrekBBS to find out that actually, these pictures (which are indicative of almost nothing) mean it's a reboot!
Man, do I feel stupid!
'Meh, no big deal. Just some hooded guys and gals walking around. Surely there's nothing to be gleaned from this!'
And then I pop over to good ol' TrekBBS to find out that actually, these pictures (which are indicative of almost nothing) mean it's a reboot!
Man, do I feel stupid!
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