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Re: Star Trek Themesong (Roddenberry's "contribution")

DS9Sega,

The originator of this tread is clearly not a native English speaker. His/her post is valid. ST fans span the globe. There is no need to throw it back in his/her face (an Asian phrase.)
 
Re: Star Trek Themesong (Roddenberry's "contribution")

DAMjim said:
That had to be one of the most underhanded moves by a producer. I am sure he or other producers have done worse but he is the only one who actually admitted it himself although un-apologetically.
I would be awfully surprised if this even made it into the top thousand of underhanded moves by a producer. For that matter it probably doesn't even get in the top thousand of underhanded moves by a science-fiction promoter. They're fields with very stiff competition.
 
Re: Star Trek Themesong (Roddenberry's "contribution")

Therin of Andor said:
xortex said:
Does any one know who wrote 'Beyond Antares' or those songs Uhura sang from 'Charlie X'. I really like 'Beyond Antares'.

The song "Beyond Antares" was written by Wilbur Hatch with lyrics by Gene L. Coon.

Who is wilber Hatch ?
 
Re: Star Trek Themesong (Roddenberry's "contribution")

Wilbur Hatch was the musical director at Desilu, having somewhat been put out to pasture. But to his credit, he gave us the " I Love Lucy" theme, amongst many others
 
Re: Star Trek Themesong (Roddenberry's "contribution")

Haha.

It's funny how folks say 'Gene did this bad thing' and others 'Gene's vision blah blah blah' sometimes in the same breath. =)

I always liked the lyrics.
 
The lyrics may not be musically "sophisticated", but I think they fit the show just fine. I like the version sung by the lovely Lola Bombay.

As far as I can tell, GR did nothing illegal or improper. After all, everyone connected with the show - including Alexander Courage - was doing business to make money. Nothing wrong with that. After all, the profit motive gave us Star Trek to begin with.

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Edit: You can also find the Lola Bombay recording of the Star Trek theme at the Project Pimento website. (You can download the Trek theme there, or buy the CD, which I did.)
http://www.projectpimento.com/
 
Re: Star Trek Themesong (Roddenberry's "contribution")

roger1999 said:
DS9Sega,

The originator of this tread is clearly not a native English speaker. His/her post is valid. ST fans span the globe. There is no need to throw it back in his/her face (an Asian phrase.)

The original post is so short, and bad spelling so common even amongst native speakers (I can't even count how many people here use "then" interchangably with "than", "your" for "you're", and spell "infinite" with an "a"), that I don't see how anyone can intuit that another poster is "clearly" not a native English speaker based on one sentence.

And, frankly, I don't think it's throwing it back in anyone's face to correct them if they're using a word that doesn't exist...especially on a board where people start cursing at each other over whether or not the 1701's bridge faces forward. :D
 
Re: Star Trek Themesong (Roddenberry's "contribution")

DS9Sega,

I always avoided those threads about where the bridge faces. Doesn't the scene in The Cage, also shown in the Menagerie, establish that the bridge faces forward? I'm taking about the scene where the shot begins in space and then zooms in on and into the bridge.
 
Re: Star Trek Themesong (Roddenberry's "contribution")

Roger1999: Now you've stepped in it! There are those who argue that what we see in 'The Menagerie' and 'The Cage' should be ignored. Those same people seem to have put a lot of thought into choosing "facts" to support their theories. Some of these are quite entertaining, except when they get nasty toward anyone who disagrees.
 
Re: Star Trek Themesong (Roddenberry's "contribution")

NCC621, now that you mention it, I suppose that when I was playing with my NCC-1701 model as a kid, I assumed that "turbo-lift shaped" thing just outside the bridge was in fact the turbo shaft casing. But, I see no reason to argue that it MUST be the actual casing. Is that the basis for the argument that the bridge does not actually face forward?

How can anyone suggest that we ignore what we see in such classic episodes?

This brings up another issue but I need to start another thread for that.
 
Re: Star Trek Themesong (Roddenberry's "contribution")

Actually I don't think Roddenberry's lyrics are all that bad. They're kind of wistfully haunting in their own way. The one weak point is that the word "star" is repeated too often. Still and all, I'm very glad they were never sung as part of the opening.
 
Re: Star Trek Themesong (Roddenberry's "contribution")

I like those lyrics (sort of) but acknowledge the problem. To quote Alexander Courage:

"Roddenberry's lyrics totally lacked musical practicality. He made two very serious errors in writing the lyrics. One, he changed the shape of the melody by adding extra beats, and two, he used closed vowel with a z-z-z-z sound on the highest notes, something that gives great problems to singers."

For your further edification, watch this absolutely fascinating interview:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9oppn9BT6XM

Make sure you hang around for the credits.
 
Re: Star Trek Themesong (Roddenberry's "contribution")

DS9Sega said:
First of all it's "theme" not "theam" (whatever that is).
The guy's evidently not a native English speaker, Sherlock.
 
Re: Star Trek Themesong (Roddenberry's "contribution")

Roger1999: Yes, I assume that the thingie behind the bridge is the turbolift. But in "the cage", the turbo doesn't line up with the thingie. Despite this visual evidence, some people think this means the bridge has to be rotated to make it line up. Some people think the bridge must be moved down in order to fit. Some argue that the starship must be bigger than Matt Jefferies thought it was.

And a very few think it's just one of those things and try not to let it bother them too much.

But who doesn't love Lola Bombay??
 
Re: Star Trek Themesong (Roddenberry's "contribution")

elton said:
DS9Sega said:
First of all it's "theme" not "theam" (whatever that is).
The guy's evidently not a native English speaker, Sherlock.

So naturally, when we encounter either someone who DOES speak English but doesn't speak or spell correctly, or someone who's trying to learn English, in neither case should we correct their errors.

It's best to let people stay ignorant and continue to do poorly, repeating the same mistakes again and again.


:confused:
 
Re: Star Trek Themesong (Roddenberry's "contribution")

NCC621 said:
But who doesn't love Lola Bombay??

I've never heard of her, but I'm about to find out what all the fuss is about.
 
Re: Star Trek Themesong (Roddenberry's "contribution")

Dr. Acula said:
DS9Sega said:
First of all it's "theme" not "theam" (whatever that is).
The guy's evidently not a native English speaker, Sherlock.
I addressed this above, Watson. Back to 221b Baker Street with you.
 
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