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You mean besides the Ferengi database.... I`m not saying it`s not a good book, just a little odd in it`s setting and continuity is all.
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You mean besides the Ferengi database.... I`m not saying it`s not a good book, just a little odd in it`s setting and continuity is all.
Another vote for the book being good. In fact, I was so focused ont he story that I wasn't even thinking about the oddities.
Well, I would dispute the last part, but I certainly did not mean to suggest that the book shouldn't be read just because it has some continuity differences. Most of the books being discussed in this thread aren't consistent with each other anyway, and many have been contradicted by later canon. Continuity is a nice bonus, but it's not necessary for a story to be consistent with other stories in order for it to be enjoyable in its own right.
thanks starbreaker this is what they had for christopher pike:
1) star trek enterprise the first adventure
2) star trek vulcan's glory
3) star trek legacy
4) star trek the rift
5) star trek captin's table #6 where sea meets sky
6) star trek burning dreams
7) star trek myriad universe : a less perfect union
8) star trek the children of kings
they listed these as novel's with pike in them but not the order to read them that is what I need . I know enterprise the fist adventure will go last for pike and first for kirk but, what goes first for pike and did'nt he have a ten year mission? also for those who don't work this week it is star trek the next generation week on sci-fi as well as all ten movies in no particlar order.
1) star trek enterprise the first adventure
2) star trek vulcan's glory
3) star trek legacy
4) star trek the rift
5) star trek captin's table #6 where sea meets sky
6) star trek burning dreams
7) star trek myriad universe : a less perfect union
8) star trek the children of kings
they listed these as novel's with pike in them but not the order to read them that is what I need . I know enterprise the fist adventure will go last for pike and first for kirk but, what goes first for pike and did'nt he have a ten year mission? also for those who don't work this week it is star trek the next generation week on sci-fi as well as all ten movies in no particlar order.
http://sites.google.com/site/stvotitimeline/
Don't forget "The Lives of Dax" short story, "Sins of the Mother" by SD Perry, and the "Enterprise Logs" story, "Conflicting Natures" by Jerry Oltion.
http://memory-beta.wikia.com/wiki/Christopher_Pike
okay there were a few pike novels but what about the first five year mission.
the series starts with :
1) star trek enterprise : the first adventure
and the series end with :
2) star trek the lost years
what i need are the one that go in between and then we can go onto the second five year mission which began with
1) star trek the motion picture
and ends with
2) star trek the wrath of khan
the series starts with :
1) star trek enterprise : the first adventure
and the series end with :
2) star trek the lost years
what i need are the one that go in between and then we can go onto the second five year mission which began with
1) star trek the motion picture
and ends with
2) star trek the wrath of khan
Again, there is no specific order, because these are all standalones and exist in numerous different and sometimes contradictory continuities (intentionally or not). To be specific:
Enterprise: The First Adventure: A "Kirk's first mission as Enterprise captain" story, with Pike appearing mainly to hand off command to Kirk. Supposedly set when Kirk is not quite 30, which would make it early 2263. Many of its assumptions are incompatible with later canon.
Vulcan's Glory: Now, this one tells Spock's first mission on the Enterprise, sometime before "The Cage," so 2254 at the latest.
Legacy: Actually a novel set during Kirk's 5-year mission, but contains a number of flashbacks to events throughout Pike's command, seen from Spock's POV as he deals with an enemy that Pike tangled with in the past.
The Rift: Starts out not long after "The Cage" (Pike-era stories are overwhelmingly crowded around "The Cage"), but most of the book is set aboard the Enterprise-A in 2287.
Where Sea Meets Sky: Again, sometime not long after "The Cage," though the Captain's Table frame sequence is in 2266 after Pike becomes a fleet captain.
Burning Dreams: I covered this on the first page of the thread. Spans most of Pike's life, with the frame being just after "The Menagerie."
A Less Perfect Union: It's a Myriad Universes tale, so it takes place in an alternate reality. It's set in 2264, mostly.
The Children of Kings: I covered this before as well. Also a slightly alternate reality, but before the timeframe of "The Cage."
All we know is that Spock served under Pike for 11 years and change. We don't know how long Pike commanded the Enterprise before then. And really, there's no reason to assume that starship missions are routinely allotted in blocks of five years or multiples of five years. We only have one example of that, and one example is not evidence of a pattern.
No need to be so methodical. There is no single continuity here. Indeed, there are so many different novels and stories and comics set during the "five-year mission" that if they all took place in the same reality, they'd probably span over ten years. There are so many that it would be prohibitive to try to offer a comprehensive list, and impossible to satisfy your evident desire for a single cohesive timeline.
So don't worry so much about what order to read things in. Just pick up something that interests you and have fun reading it.
Exactly. Except perhaps in recent years, the books weren't meant to be read in any specific order. Even back when the books were numbered, the numbers didn't mean anything. When I wrote Voyager #13: The Black Shore, I had no idea what happened in volumes 12 or 14. I was just writing a standalone Voyager novel that was consistent with the tv show.
Same with all of my Trek books. I might occasionally throw in an allusion to another Trek novel, as a tip of the hat, but I was mostly just trying to squeeze my books in between the tv episodes or movies.
^Right. The thing is, with the tie-in novels published during the runs of TNG, DS9, and the other modern shows, there was a general trend to move forward along with the shows, to make the books fit the current season (as of writing, which usually meant the previous season as of publication). So with some exceptions, there is a sense of moving roughly forward if you read them in order, though they rarely connected to each other at all, so they didn't necessarily go in any particular order within a season. (The first few DS9 novels were something of an exception, since they tended to make references to the events of their predecessors -- but then you had the case where DS9 book #10 was a loose prequel to book #6.)
But with TOS, all the novels (except Mission to Horatius) were written after the show had ended. And for whatever reason, relatively few TOS novelists have felt the need to remain current with the movie continuity, preferring instead to work in the 5-year mission. So there's no sense of forward progress, except in those subsets of books that had some continuity among them, like the J. M. Dillard novels and the others that referenced them. You could have a book set near the end of the 5-year mission followed by a book set shortly after a 2nd-season episode, say.
But with TOS, all the novels (except Mission to Horatius) were written after the show had ended. And for whatever reason, relatively few TOS novelists have felt the need to remain current with the movie continuity, preferring instead to work in the 5-year mission. So there's no sense of forward progress, except in those subsets of books that had some continuity among them, like the J. M. Dillard novels and the others that referenced them. You could have a book set near the end of the 5-year mission followed by a book set shortly after a 2nd-season episode, say.
Again, if you desperately want to read them all in order, using any of the online timelines we gave you links for, you can enter the titles into "Find" in your browser and it'll usually take you to the books' places on the timeline. Keep in mind that most novels contain flashbacks, as characters recall previous events in their lives, and most of these are catalogued in the timelines.
Or... just read everything in publication order, like many of us have done for over 40 years.
An example of the very loose continuity in the old TOS novels: The flashback portion of Strangers From the Sky takes place shortly after Enterprise: The First Adventure, and it has most of the TOS regulars (who just got together E: TFA) step aside for various reasons to set up the Enterprise crew seen in second pilot "Where No Man Has Gone Before". Spock's Word makes reference to the present-day events of Strangers From the Sky (even though SW is set halfway through the post-TMP second 5YM, and SFtS is set just before STII)
There's no required reading order, but it's neat to go "I've read that!" when a tiny hint is dropped.
There's no required reading order, but it's neat to go "I've read that!" when a tiny hint is dropped.