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Star Trek- The Motion Picture Appreciation Thread
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That was very interesting and something I hadn't seen before. Thanks for sharing!
I agree very much of that.
The movie is not perfect, but it's such a great film. One of the last great American films before things started to get a little jumpy with the edits.
We did a running commentary on TMP a little while back. Give it a listen:
Episode 262, “V’Ger needs this podcast”
We did a running commentary on TMP a little while back. Give it a listen:
Episode 262, “V’Ger needs this podcast”
Stop trying to force your views on others!
I've always loved it. I watched it today for the first time in years and it was even more mesmerizing in hd. It's the most Star Trek of the Star Trek films, imo.
Seriously, you need to stop.
Supposedly his ex-wife, Vice-Admiral Lori Ciana, according the the novelization. IIRC.
I'd always assumed it was the original navigator, since Ilia seems to be a last-minute addition (no one but Decker recognizes the name, and Uhura isn't even sure she's pronouncing it right, and thinks no one would know where she was from), and right before she arrives Kirk says they're waiting for the last of the "crew replacements."
Yep, ex-wife in the sense that they had been married on a one-year contract. In the novel.
There's zero indication that Kirk was even acquainted with the other officer in the film, only with Sonak.
It's my understanding that The Shat actively participated in the daily re-writes in the script and had actually came up with the idea that V'GER would want to merge with Decker. Apparently, there was uncertainty how to approach wrapping up V'GER's narrative in the story. I don't know if that's true, or not ... just what I picked up, from somewhere.
Shatner claimed he came up with an ending and told it to several people, but by the time he got to Wise he lost energy with the repeated tellings and Wise didn't go went for it... whatever it was.
As to Decker merging with V'ger, that's there in the script drafts before production started, so unlikely Shatner had anything to do with it.
As to Decker merging with V'ger, that's there in the script drafts before production started, so unlikely Shatner had anything to do with it.
I finally got around to uploading this working draft for TMP online: https://www.scribd.com/document/356105331/Star-Trek-I-The-Motion-Picture-Redraft-Preview
Forgive the weirdness with the font. Apparently, the PDF didn't preserve the Courier font from the screenwriting program I used, and I can't get it to fix.
I'm sure I was reaching farther than my grasp in terms of story and character, but it was a fun exercise to push my skills to see what I could do with the flaws of the script.
It was long, so I skim-read but I spotted some nice extra character moments for the supporting cast, a special special longer version.
I *really* appreciate the Bionic Bob episodic recut fan edit of this movie...... the pacing is incredible.
And, it will always be fantastic for the Connie II/Enterprise Class refit. The later movie's never stopped milking its special effects...
And, it will always be fantastic for the Connie II/Enterprise Class refit. The later movie's never stopped milking its special effects...
Loved this one.
I wish they had more proper exterior shots of VGER to get a concrete perspective of it.
Loved the wormhole and transporter problems. Stuff happened in the 23rd century, technology was largely great but not always perfect. Seeing people DIE, in a g-rated movie no less, is an eye-opener.
Loved the new Enterprise look and photographic detail. Given the f/x of the industry, what they did was more than just a loving tribute. And it looks better than Star Wars IMHO.
I also love the longest possible cut with the footage that clearly had bits of studio visible in the background. Never cared for the director's cut DVD where they chop out everything and replaced sound effects, they lost something in the translation though I appreciate why cutting down the length had a certain merit.
The f/x were marvelous. Split screen with laser photography, what got completed is sumptuous and even feels tangible.. still amazed at what they could do. There was a website article discussing the processes but I've not found it again since when I'd read it a couple years or so ago... and in 1979, one could probably sit through it all. With CGI nowadays, it's not going to be as inspiring. Everyone wants photorealism anyway.
And despite a picture of the exterior of VGER, there's this to prove some semblance of scale:
( source: http://ew.com/article/2016/04/29/star-trek-motion-picture-geekly/ )
Yeah, VGER is flipping massive, way bigger than any Borg ship. Amazing how the Enterprise could withstand even one bolt.
The pastel pajamas where nothing is left to the imag*cough*ination are best left in 1979. If people thought TNG'87 was too beige, they clearly forgot about the muted Earthtones of 1979.
Persis Khambatta died way, way too young.
Even with a shaved head, she's breathtakingly gorgeous. But she had magnificent hair as well. Icing on the cake...
I wish they had more proper exterior shots of VGER to get a concrete perspective of it.
Loved the wormhole and transporter problems. Stuff happened in the 23rd century, technology was largely great but not always perfect. Seeing people DIE, in a g-rated movie no less, is an eye-opener.
Loved the new Enterprise look and photographic detail. Given the f/x of the industry, what they did was more than just a loving tribute. And it looks better than Star Wars IMHO.
I also love the longest possible cut with the footage that clearly had bits of studio visible in the background. Never cared for the director's cut DVD where they chop out everything and replaced sound effects, they lost something in the translation though I appreciate why cutting down the length had a certain merit.
The f/x were marvelous. Split screen with laser photography, what got completed is sumptuous and even feels tangible.. still amazed at what they could do. There was a website article discussing the processes but I've not found it again since when I'd read it a couple years or so ago... and in 1979, one could probably sit through it all. With CGI nowadays, it's not going to be as inspiring. Everyone wants photorealism anyway.
And despite a picture of the exterior of VGER, there's this to prove some semblance of scale:
( source: http://ew.com/article/2016/04/29/star-trek-motion-picture-geekly/ )
Yeah, VGER is flipping massive, way bigger than any Borg ship. Amazing how the Enterprise could withstand even one bolt.
The pastel pajamas where nothing is left to the imag*cough*ination are best left in 1979. If people thought TNG'87 was too beige, they clearly forgot about the muted Earthtones of 1979.
Persis Khambatta died way, way too young.
Even with a shaved head, she's breathtakingly gorgeous. But she had magnificent hair as well. Icing on the cake...
in 1979, Rated "G" meant the opposite of what we think it does now - it meant it was FOR *all* ages, General Audiences, signifying it as NOT a "just for kids" show, but one that kids could watch also.
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