Star Trek Teaser - Grading and Disscusion

[Franklin]

nerfherder said:
I LOVE it! One thing stands out for me though: someone earlier mentioned the "Steampunk" quality of the aesthetics, and someone else on Trek Movie Report noted how Bladerunner it looked. I know, it's a construction yard, but the tools, hardware of the ship, and gritty mood of the trailer makes me think that this may be a far less sanitized, pretty, and hippy-ized Trekverse than we have seen before. Not that I'm complaining - very refreshing, in fact. But is Abrams' Trek not the clean utopia that Roddenberry envisioned?

Maybe that wasn't CGI, but real sets being built.

I think "under construction" is the theme of the whole thing. Beyond that, I really doubt Abrams really cares what's read into it (well, he wants us to like it, which seems to be the case).
As I posted above, I'm beginning to believe those workers were meant to look 1960ish. The only thing missing was somebody's lunch box sitting on the saucer.
I mean, even today most precision welding is done by robots. And you have phasers, but still weld in the 20th century manner? If that's supposed to be an authentic representation of the building of the Enterprise, then I want to see a Federation inspector going around to test all those welds.

From the point of view of saying it's something new YET it's still mindful of the optimism and promise of space exploration that fueled TOS in the 1960s, it's damn good.

 

[Gepard]

Heh. That was awesome.

Kegek said:
Not so fond on the guys with goggles welding stuff, though. Somehow it looks too modern.

I think that was the idea. When you first see them, you have no idea it's a film set in the future. And I thought it gave the whole proceedings a magical air, like Lantern Wastes in "The Lion the Witch and the Wardrobe" or all the steampunk tech in "The Golden Compass." Sure it's anachronistic, but that's the whole point. Made for a very effective teaser, IMO.

Now, if this sequence is in the final film, that'll be a whole other story...

 

[cooleddie74]

I liked it. Not as super-awesome as I hoped it'd be, but it made me even more exicted about the film's release so it did its job effectively.

 

[Ah Forgive!]

I adored this trailer. What I loved most was how it implies the grand scale of TMP that most of the other Trek movies seemed to lack. I hope the interior sets are just as impressive, or at least a step above the hokey TV-series-quality sets we've become accustomed to.

Nimoy's voice made this feel like "real" Star Trek to me, and not just someone else's take on it. It felt like revisiting my childhood.

I'm not really sure why there is all this ruckus from the canon-freaks about the Enterprise being built on Earth. The dedication plaque specifically says it was built in San Francisco. Have they ever said otherwise in the shows or films?

 

[Corran Horn]

I enjoyed it. The saucer looks pretty much like a meld between the TOS Enterprise and the refit. However, at one point you see one of the nacelle struts (not connected to a nacelle, but oriented 'properly') and it seems to be the rectangular type from TOS rather than the canted and somewhat trapezoidal ones from the refit. Also, I saw a circular yellow graphic that looks similar to the one that's on the bottom of the TOS Enterprise's primary hull.

I'm really looking forward to the movie.

 

[Sharr Khan]

The dedication plaque specifically says it was built in San Francisco.

When I was younger that plaque really confused me since well I guess I assumed: "Its a starship, it must have been built in space - yet San Francisco is a on Earth. Why would they call orbital facilities 'San Fransisco shipyards'? Given there is such a place." it always seemed contradictory to me.

To me the rational that they built drydocks and called them "San Fransisco Shipyards" is really stretching it. If the plaque was meant to say: "San Fransisco orbital shipyards" it would - but I'm pretty sure it doesn't.

Sharr

 

[Dart]

That baby looks like it could do Warp 15 no problem.

 

[trevanian]

Franklin said:

nerfherder said:
I LOVE it! One thing stands out for me though: someone earlier mentioned the "Steampunk" quality of the aesthetics, and someone else on Trek Movie Report noted how Bladerunner it looked. I know, it's a construction yard, but the tools, hardware of the ship, and gritty mood of the trailer makes me think that this may be a far less sanitized, pretty, and hippy-ized Trekverse than we have seen before. Not that I'm complaining - very refreshing, in fact. But is Abrams' Trek not the clean utopia that Roddenberry envisioned?

Maybe that wasn't CGI, but real sets being built.

I think "under construction" is the theme of the whole thing. Beyond that, I really doubt Abrams really cares what's read into it (well, he wants us to like it, which seems to be the case).
As I posted above, I'm beginning to believe those workers were meant to look 1960ish. The only thing missing was somebody's lunch box sitting on the saucer.

Nick Meyer already did the 'bag lunch' thing in TWOK, but it was cut from the release print.

It would take a ton of work to make real sets look this painterly, whereas it is easy to let CG look painterly and unrealistic like this. What would have been grand is if they'd built a good miniature, hired Richard Yuricich to shoot it, then enhanced that with live-action people comped in, along with some CG atmospherics if real atmospherics wouldn't scale properly. APOLLO 13 should have been the objective here, something that has physicality as well as spectacle.

 

[Michael]

So, who else thinks this guy in the teaser looks exactly like Ray Liotta?

 

[Woulfe]

Screw the crappy you tube version....

I just got back from CLOVERFIELD !

The teaser looks SO much better on an actual movie screen !

 

[Michael]

^ Good to hear that! I already love the YouTube one, but look forward to see the teaser on the big screen, too ...

 

[egonbeeblebrox]

Hell Yeah! I'm sold, and even my sister is, and she usually isn't a fan of Trek.

 

[pookha]

Sharr Khan said:

The dedication plaque specifically says it was built in San Francisco.

When I was younger that plaque really confused me since well I guess I assumed: "Its a starship, it must have been built in space - yet San Francisco is a on Earth. Why would they call orbital facilities 'San Fransisco shipyards'? Given there is such a place." it always seemed contradictory to me.

To me the rational that they built drydocks and called them "San Fransisco Shipyards" is really stretching it. If the plaque was meant to say: "San Fransisco orbital shipyards" it would - but I'm pretty sure it doesn't.

Sharr

how i saw it was major sections were indeed built in san fran and then transported up and connected together in space.

for that matter they could they build the saucer section and fly it up.

 

[davejames]

I think the most important thing about this teaser is that it suggests Abrams is making an actual MOVIE here.

As good as I thought his MI3 was, there was no denying that it was essentially a glorified, big budget episode of Alias. I don't get that "TV feel" at all with this teaser.

This movie feels like it's going to be incredibly atmospheric and epically huge in scope, just as it should be.

 

[Holytomato]

Let me click on the youtube link:

The dark isn't 1966 dark!!!!

Its supposed to be the Desilu logo not Paramount's nor Robot's!!!!

The Enterprise's parts are being constructed in the San Fransisco Navy Yards and then being put in space, then being put together in the spacedock, just like it says on the ship's plaque!!!!

They used C G I!!!!

Its a cross between the TOS and TMP designs!!!!

Nimoy said "Space the final frontier" not Shatner!!!!

J.J. Abrams has raped my childhood!!!!

:turning tin foil mode off:

Great! I can't wait to see it on the big screen.

and on my flat screen full spectrum LCD HD tv.

and on a Digital 3D Imax movie screeen. :thumbsup:

 

[JD]

I saw Cloverfield this morning and I thought the trailer was increbible, just like the movie. I'm just glad that they actually put the trailer in front of a movie as good as Cloverfield. TBH the showing I went to had one of the best collections of trailers I've seen: Trek, Hellboy 2, Iron Man, and Jumper all back to back.

 

[Woulfe]

^ Only thing I was miffed about was no Indy 4 teaser !

Oh well, good things come to those who wait, eh ?

 

[steveman]

What can I say? It's nice to finally see something done for us again. We've had to sit back and watch while fans of every sort (Star Wars, Batman, Spider-Man, Harry Potter, Transformers...) got to see their worlds looked after and lovingly brought to the big screen. We've had to sit back and watch while they've had their time in the sun. While they've had trailers to get excited for. While they've had opening nights to go to.

With this trailer, their time is officially over.

Now, it's time to see our world brought (back) to the big screen. It's time for us to get excited about trailers. About going to an opening night.

It's our time, baby. :thumbsup:

 

[Holytomato]

The guy who did the Human:Ship size comparison video, Vektor, the person who did the April Fool's Day design, and the person who did the recent fake trailer were correct.

:thumbsup:

 

[Capt.April]

Franklin said:

slappy said:

Kegek said:

Not so fond on the guys with goggles welding stuff, though. Somehow it looks too modern.

I dug that part, it was my favorite aspect of the whole trailer. I've always had a soft spot for Trek (and future sci-fi in general) that looked to the future with details from past. Kirk's antique glasses, breaking a champagne bottle on the hull, I love that type of thing.

I agree about the anachronisms used in "Star Trek".

Except this time, given the apparent theme of the teaser, perhaps the welders were meant to be laborers from the 1960s rather than from the from the future. The workers from one era contructing the new future and all.

But let's be honest, the whole payoff is the glimpse of the Enterprise. We already knew there was going to be a movie. What we wanted was to "see a bit of ankle." And that's what we got.

In the Trek history of the future remember Earth has gone through WW3 along with other huge upheavels of probably cultural and economic conflicts ("the post atomic horror"). One thing I thought Enterprise did not do well was to show the future as well as say the TMP novel. Enterprise was too America centered, it looked like it was too linear with todays world. In a couple of hundred years after wars and econonomic collapse and rebuilding and restructuring there may be a mix of old and new. A guy welding with a stick welder, possibly fusion powered two pieces of starship plating made of materials that we could only guess at could be quite feasible.

Two things that will change the world:
1. Fusion power
2. Matter teleportation/manipulation

A world with these two inventions would probably be unrecognizable to us, we're 17th century people looking at the year 2000. Ben Franklin would probably be a little disapointed though looking under the hood of Ford F-150 truck that we're still using pistons to move the darn thing.

'Stick Welder'....yea cool. But i wonder what it's attatched to?

Sorry for the ramble...Loved the trailer, I want it in HD!