Spoilers Star Trek: Strange New Worlds 1x10 - "A Quality of Mercy"

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Strange New Worlds' started by Commander Richard, Jul 6, 2022.

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  1. 10 - Excellent!

    60.1%
  2. 9

    20.6%
  3. 8

    10.0%
  4. 7

    4.5%
  5. 6

    1.4%
  6. 5

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  7. 4

    1.0%
  8. 3

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  9. 2

    0 vote(s)
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  10. 1 - Terrible!

    0.3%
  1. Timofnine

    Timofnine Vice Admiral Moderator

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    Maybe someone can invent inertial dampeners which negate the need for seatbelts? They could adapt to physical alterations to inertia, movement and gravity etc but in a ‘space suit’ kind of way, compensating for failures in the ships artificial gravity and ship wide equivalent? It would sure beat the need for seat belts in the future! :shrug:
     
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  2. yenny

    yenny Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    In the Animation Series, the Enterprise dose have a second turbolift on the Bridge.
    In the Cage, the second turbolift was just left of the main view screen. But, you never anyone using it.
     
  3. Jedi Marso

    Jedi Marso Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    The entire ship is going to shrink by a good bit as well.
     
  4. Nerys Myk

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    I think that goes back to George Washington. ;)
     
  5. cooleddie74

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    The more I ignore the CBS and Eaglemoss scale number the happier I am. The numbers don't even line up with onscreen graphics so I just shrug it off.
     
  6. Timofnine

    Timofnine Vice Admiral Moderator

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    Maybe the second turbo lift to the left is more like a plank that the Captain made people walk off if they were naughty or if they were being promoted. The plank that Worf walked off in Generations was also on the left. That was a funny scene. Especially when he knocked people back in to the water with him? Troi I think it was? :guffaw:
     
  7. Tuskin38

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    Only on the outside.
     
  8. cooleddie74

    cooleddie74 Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    If only we were all so lucky.


    What?
     
  9. Serveaux

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    The one scene that plays badly is the final meeting in Pike's quarters between Pike and Kirk. The tone is off - a little too jocular "What a fucking day at the office, huh?" for the losses they've incurred just hours before (at most). And then Kirk sticks the knife in - "You know what, if you'd done things differently to begin with, maybe this situation wouldn't have gone all to shit." That was all a bit jarring and inappropriate.
     
  10. Serveaux

    Serveaux Mediocre Old White Man Premium Member

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    Hardly. Watch it again.

    Only the Romulans "ignited a war."
     
  11. cooleddie74

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    The Romulans provoked the confrontation in the original TOS timeline and in Pike's altered one. Pike is many things in this episode but "dumb" isn't one of them.
     
  12. Nerys Myk

    Nerys Myk Garth of Algar Premium Member

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    That's why Pike is checking out Kirk's file at the end. He's gonna torpedo that little snot. ;)
     
  13. blssdwlf

    blssdwlf Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    Inappropriate and also avoiding blame. It was SNW-Kirk that caused the Enterprise to be damaged and unable to finish off the Romulan Bird of Prey which led Pike to offer a temporary truce. Unlike TOS-Kirk, SNW-Kirk charged right into the plasma bolt necessitating Pike to move into rescue the Farragut crew. TOS-Kirk backed off and warped away from the plasma bolt instead of trying to go head-to-head with the Romulan.
     
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  14. Amaris

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    This. One of the reasons I stopped giving numbers is because a 10 can also be a 5 or an 8 or anything in between because of how my feelings toward it are now, in the present, when I've watched it. I do vote in the poll, so people will have to look at those to see what I select, but numbers just don't cut it for me anymore. Quite frankly, I'd have voted mostly 10 this season anyway, partly because the series is very good (subjectively, obvs), but also because it's the first serialized live action Trek I've seen in a long while, and it is a breath of fresh air for me.

    It's one of those things where you just have to accept updated in-universe canon and just roll with it. Getting caught up in the minutiae to the point where it interferes with show enjoyment is a bad route to take. I'd rather shrug it off, too. Just go with it and accept things as they are, as we see them.
     
  15. Trekker4747

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    Ok, rewatching BoT (again since starting SNW) the Shatner-ism here. The KIRK. Yeah. Wesley missed the mark big time in just the charisma and charm. He didn't need to look the part, have Shatner's speech patterns (though, maybe, a deeper voice) but even with the BD paused Shatner's Kirk commands the screen with his smile. Wesley's Kirk was a ham sandwich. (Not intent to demean the actor, I know nothing about him and haven't seen him in anything, just that as Kirk he's lacking.)

    Oh, and because Pike still has the Enterprise Scotty didn't serve as father of the bride
     
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  16. Tuskin38

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    and the numbers on the graphics don't line up with the shape of the ship.

    Besides he art team wasn't given the proper numbers in DSC Season 2. This year they do have them, at least the total height, length and width.

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  17. Ray Hardgrit

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    I'm genuinely surprised by how many people share this opinion but hey it seems to be working out for you! I've certainly got not plans to try to talk anyone out of it.
     
  18. Shikarnov

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    I agree that the tone wasn't right at the end. The Federation is now at war, and they're shooting the breeze like they just went through a bad simulation together. And there was no sense of loss for the Romulan commander either, something that was a key part of Balance of Terror. The words were there, but none of the emotion.

    But Kirk sticking in the knife does seem on point to me. He never was one to pull his punches -- especially with other starship commanders, for whom he always showed respect and even reverence. I don't think he was trying to say "I told you so" to be petty; but rather to make sure the point wasn't lost that sometimes aggression is the appropriate response. He wasn't going disrespect Captain Pike by tiptoeing around that; nor was he going to let a weaker viewpoint prevail now that war had been declared.


    I wouldn't be so fast to give TOS-Kirk a pass... The reason he chose to warp away was because there was, just moments before, a phaser circuit burnout. The Enterprise was defenseless. And when the BOP decloaked to fire, there really wasn't another option available.

    SNW-Kirk had an undamaged ship, an opportunity to strike, and backup right there. He had more options and less time. His biggest miscalculation was that Pike wouldn't press the advantage, and he seemed a good bit annoyed at having to waste time ordering Pike to fire phasers -- and having to justify the direction -- at the end of the scene.

    But you're right; blame should go to both. They clearly weren't on the same page at all and that lack of understanding and teamwork made a tense situation dire.
     
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  19. Charles Phipps

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    I took Kirk as trying very much to be polite at what he perceived to a failure of Commodore Deckarian proportions.

    (And it was much worse)

    Assuming Kirk loves the Farragut as much as the Enterprise, he probably is holding back furious anger.
     
  20. cooleddie74

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    In the original timeline Kirk lost 200 of his crewmates but his ship survived. In this one he's not only lost all those lives in 2257 but now he's lost even more and his first command is now gone as well.