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Star Trek: Starships Model/Magazine Subscription

Yikes.

I started the Discovery collection a bit late, the first twelve arrived in numerical order, then they skipped about 3-4 issues, sent a couple, skipped 3-4 more, then started sending slightly more current issues (although, I think I'm still about two issues behind). What's annoying is I have the feeling I'm going to have to go back some time and fill in the missing issues from the store.

I think for the original collection I'm mostly up to date, but honestly, I have so many of the friggin' things now they couldnhave skipped one and I wouldn't be the wiser, lol.
 
If you're doing an actual subscription, you may want to hold off - they do eventually back-fill prior missing issues - albeit sometimes over a year after they were supposed to have come out. There have been several instances when I went back to purchase missing holes in my collection, either from their own online store or from eBay, only to have them ship out the same ones much much later, forcing me to turn them around on eBay myself.

Most of my Disco line is up-to-date, with the single exception of the Worker Bee, which had initially been an exclusive for one of the big conventions a couple years back, but was then later added into the regular line as Issue #13, but they never sent it to me as a part of my subscription. I'm leery of getting it individually, out of concern that it may appear in my mailbox next year. I guess the best thing to do is call them up, see if they have it available and send it to me, checking that box in my subscription, mitigating further duplicates. I have several holes in my regular line of smaller ships that need to be filled, likely in a similar manner, before things really start to dry up.

Eaglemoss' data management has always seemed very problematic, particularly for subscribers, but they do eventually get around to sending things.
 
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That's what i was hoping based on my experience with the regular collection, but I was a subscriber there since day 1, but starting the Disco subscription something like nine months late has me more wary.

I was thinking on starting the Galactica subscription when the regular Trek collection ended, but based on how spotty the Trek subscriptions have been, I'm now leaning on just picking up a couple of ships now and again when they're having a sale.
 
Quick question: Did the magazine establish/indicate a proper class name for the USS Kobayashi Maru ECS-1022?
 
My Discoprise
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It took over two months of agonizing waiting (with even packages I ordered later from the same dealer somehow arriving first) but in the midst of discussing the sending of a replacement with the dealer, the Romulan Bird of Prey finally arrived! A couple of pieces (the fin and port nacelle) have unfortunately come off, but they stay in place for now, and a little glue should fix that. What a relief.
 
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Is anyone else annoyed by the inconsistent scale of the Eaglemoss line?

I am. I just received my Enterprise E, and it looks ridiculous sitting near my other ships. The damn thing is almost dwarfed by the Runabout.
I looks good, just not in comparison to the other ships.
 
I am. I just received my Enterprise E, and it looks ridiculous sitting near my other ships. The damn thing is almost dwarfed by the Runabout.
I looks good, just not in comparison to the other ships.

It's dictated by the length-to-width ratio of the box. The further you get from those proportions, the smaller the ship has to be, which is why you have such a small scale for long, thin ships. Conversely, ships that are closer to the proportions of the box like the Oberth and the Enterprise-C get to be larger scale.
 
The regular versions of Enterprise D and E are pretty much in scale with each other, as I believe is Aventine.
 
It's dictated by the length-to-width ratio of the box. The further you get from those proportions, the smaller the ship has to be, which is why you have such a small scale for long, thin ships. Conversely, ships that are closer to the proportions of the box like the Oberth and the Enterprise-C get to be larger scale.
Still think the Breen was too small- an inch or so larger would still fit in the box easily
 
The first two STO collection ships - USS Gagarin NCC-97930 and USS Chimera NCC-97400 - were delivered by DPD to some people already! Rest of us, gotta wait till Monday.

The Gagarin is the 25th century version of the Shepard class.
The Chimera-class destroyer has four nacelles and it's saucer splits open in tactical mode to fire concussive "phaser lotus" pulses fuelled by the warp core. It's Captain Nog's ship, and the precursor to the Manticore class.
 

I am debatin cancelling this one. I assumed the ‘gold’ ships would be a seperate on the website line, but now they are ‘specials’ which many of us signed up for with our subs, expecting them to be a logical price/size/schedule, but these are just the normal ships with some plating. It opens up the possibility of ‘gold merchantman’ once they do the ‘wall of ships’ tenuous link to death, and frankly, it feels like being taken for a ride. The first one was...nice, but I sort of wished I hadn’t bothered. Didn’t put too much thought into it as it was a one off. This second is starting to feel like milking it.
 
Got the Tug today. Still haven’t ordered the STO ships. Are they good models?
They're great. Despite being as small as the rest of the collection, they have lots of detail, incl. tiny names and registry numbers printed across the hull.

The magazines blow it out of the park. Their's a lot of pages, many pictures, clearly co-written by the STO devs, very lore-building.
 
They're box scale - to save money in production costs. There was never any intention on the part of Eaglemoss to make them all one scale, which would have been impractical considering the comparative sizes of some of the more massive vessels involved (Fesarius, Borg Rebel Vessel, Enterprise-J, Voth City Ship, Think Tank, etc.) That's all that needs to be said about it.

No, I am glad for it. Scale is all well and good if all you care about is the “Hero” ships, but as you aptly demonstrated, somebody who wants a set of the Enterprises to scale can pretty much get them from AMT, or one of the many small independent modeling companies. But I didn’t want yet another iteration of the same 7 or so ships. I HAVE those ships already, sometimes twice over.

I am. I just received my Enterprise E, and it looks ridiculous sitting near my other ships. The damn thing is almost dwarfed by the Runabout.
I looks good, just not in comparison to the other ships.

It's dictated by the length-to-width ratio of the box. The further you get from those proportions, the smaller the ship has to be, which is why you have such a small scale for long, thin ships. Conversely, ships that are closer to the proportions of the box like the Oberth and the Enterprise-C get to be larger scale.

If there wasn't multiple scales in play there wouldn't be such a wide-ranging line. If you want a Danube and V'Ger, you gotta roll with the punches. :)

Thank you for your replies.

I understand where Eaglemoss is coming from. Really, I do. I mean, just take a look at their official scale chart -- the in-universe size of these ships varies widely.
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So I agree that it wouldn't be commercially feasible for Eaglemoss to produce an Enterprise set in 1:5000 scale. Anything smaller than the Enterprise-C would be pretty tiny, indeed -- and I don't know if their production design/materials would even allow them to do that.

But as I wrote before, Eaglemoss would have to produce just two more models to get a full Enterprise set in 1:2500 scale (again, Federation, alpha canon ships only -- which excludes the NX-01, Enterprise-J, etc). They already have:

NCC 1701
289 meters (actual length)
0.129 meters (model length) = 1:2240 scale
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NCC 1701-A
305 meters (actual length)
0.135 meters (model length) = 1:2260 scale
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NCC 1701-D
643 meters (actual length)
0.220 meters (model length) = 1:2913 scale
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NCC 1701-E
686 meters (actual length)
0.270 meters (model length) = 1:2537 scale
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So for NCC 1701-B, just produce a model that's in-between the sizes of the two they've already made.

NCC 1701-B
467 meters (actual length)
0.139 meters (model length) = 1:3360 scale
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0.267 meters (model length) = 1:1749 scale
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Splitting the difference between the two would lead to an "in-scale" model that's 0.203 meters (model length) = 1:2300 scale.

Same with the NCC 1701-C: all Eaglemoss would have to do is produce an in-between model that's halfway between the two they've already made.

NCC 1701-C
526 meters (actual length)
0.140 meters (model length) = 1:3714 scale
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0.256 meters (model length) = 1:2031 scale
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Again, splitting the difference between these two would lead to an "in-scale" model that's 0.198 meters (model length) = 1:2657 scale.

If Eaglemoss does that, then they've effectively reproduced the 1:2500 Enterprise series by AMT -- but without all the tedious decal and paint work associated with building plastic models:
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Sure, it's not perfect. Some ships would be slightly too big (NCC 1701 is in 1:2240 scale) and others are slightly too small (NCC 1701-D is in 1:2913 scale). But it's pretty darn close to a complete Federation Enterprise series (and again, at no effort beyond purchasing).

And given the fact that Ertl/AMT has produced in-scale, multi-Enterprise plastic model sets for decades (literally), surely there's money to be made by Eaglemoss? Wouldn't an in-universe set of "hero ships" be more commercially successful than releasing random conceptual models (e.g. no disrespect, but are people lining up to buy all three variants of Nilo Rodis' Excelsior sketches?) and/or ships that only appeared in beta canon (e.g. USS Aventine)? Or do the marketing gurus at Eaglemoss know something I don't know?
 
They should just do the Enterprise’s in scale. I would get those ones.
With the J of course. I don’t care if it’s £150. Hell I’ve spent £200 on a E model. :)
 
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