Discussion in 'General Trek Discussion' started by trekker670, May 21, 2013.
TOS Enterprise XL is great. 1701-A XL is a huge dissapointment.
speaking of XLs, the enterprise-D is a very flawed model but an improvement on the standard edition simply by virtue of being the right color.
i just painted the deflector dish to more accurately represent the filming miniature. toy and model makers always forget the dish isn't actually blue, it's just illuminated blue by light underneath the oval center, so here's my attempt to replicate that:
The DST version nails the deflector better than most. Overall I think it's the best commercially released model available for less than £100.
botched the impulse engine too. funny after 30 years and invention of 3D printers, the galaxy class is somehow still too hard to get right for mid-range mass producers.
I'm a little bit annoyed. Because as a regular sized model, this is one I'd definitely would have bought. But XL? Nah. That's too big just to catch dust at home.
But of course they can sell the XL at a higher prize (and, let's face it, more people are probably buying the specials at this point than the main collection).
But just looking at the level of detail at this model - the prize seems to really come from them having to re-create the lost CGI model. Not from the level of detail of the model itself. Really wish they'd release that as a smaller version too...
it’s a special not an XL, does that make it more palatable?
Yeah you're right, and the nacelles are too low!
XL's are exclusively the ones that have already appeared in standard size, right? So it's essentially the same - upscaled compared to the regular collection - just without a "small" version existing, right?
Shame. The small size of the standard collection is really the main thing attracting me towards them. For bigger models, I otherwise would really stick to, like, only one hero ship, if at all. Whereas these little ones? I can just put them on my desk without anyone batting an eye, and I love it.
the XLs are generally larger than the specials (about 8-10 inches long versus 7-9 inches). but i expect a ship like the special edition kelvin enterprise at 8 inches would end up being around 10 inches if it was an XL. meaning the scale is larger for the XL line even if some of the models happen to be about the size as the specials. if that makes any sense.
either way, i’d prefer to have all the son’a ships as standard models too. they’re good ships, but i never wanted them in a larger scale. but i’m also not looking a gift horse in the mouth.
Sometimes you really have to wonder why the Discovery models are up to three times the price of the regular ones...
^ Could be a licensing issue. Since Discovery is a newer show still in production my guess is that the licensing fee for Eaglemoss to sell them as models is significantly higher than the one they have to pay for ships from productions two or three decades old. But yeah, they're kinda expensive for the size.
didn't ben robinson say at some point that it came down to detail and paint application for the disco line? they're generally more detailed, intricate models than the standard line.
but uh yes they vary in size a little bit, but do you want the USS shran to be larger?
You can try the boiling/ice water trick: boil some water in a microwave, dip the stand into it for thirty or so seconds, then carefully reshape the softened plastic, then set everything by placing in ice water.
While that may be true from a purely technical - machining POV, all the Disco models start off their life as CG. Not a practical one amongst them. Zero R&D is required to print Disco masters, meaning little up-front investment. I can't imagine how much effort and expense was put into researching and rebuilding the Son'a models from nothing, for example (despite they fact they, too, were CG, but lost/corrupted long ago). What's worse, is that the accompanying Disco magazines are relatively small compared to the originals.
I think licensing is probably the best Occam's Razor explanation, as well as the apparent need to put them in bigger boxes, despite the fact they're not much bigger than the standard line. Lots of empty foam in those boxes.
I'd love to see more XL models of late 24th century ships, such as the Nova or Steamrunner Class, but most of them aren't exactly "hero ships"... I wonder how well the XL Akira is selling.
The Akira is a unique case when it comes to its curious popularity. It has often been referred to as the “Boba Fett of starships”. It’s had very little screen time, we know nearly nothing about it, particularly its internals, no backstories, no capabilities.
It just looks like Hell on Wheels and the only design of its kind to use the dual-hulled “catamaran”-style architecture. It inexplicably and anomalously holds the esteem of many fans where it probably shouldn’t. It was so compelling a design they pretty much ripped it off entirely for use as the NX class, with minimal adjustments. It also looks like it has over 20 photon torpedo launchers all over it with 12 of them being in the weapons pod alone. Not very Starfleet but all kinds of awesome, which is why I think it will do quite well in sales, unlike other non-hero vessels. That’s why this one got the XL treatment over all the others.
I think that about sums it up.
Yeah, it's been a fan favourite since its debut in First Contact.
I think at the time it was one of the most visually distinctive Federation ships for a long time - pretty much all others had been spins on the original Jefferies concept of saucer/engineering/nacelles, or the Reliant's saucer/nacelles.
This was a crazy split hull. Groundbreaking and immediately easy to spot in those DS9 battle sequences. It was also the first major ship design that never got a physical model.
just got this promo code for 20% off from eaglemoss, i won't use it unless something hits the store in the next 11 hours, maybe one of you can but it's expiring at 11:00pm PST: sspi3fn4
Hopefully everyone else’s code worked, mine kept saying it had already expired even with 10 hours left.
I ordered the Shuttle Set 5 using the code a few hours after they sent me the email. It knocked $20 off so I was relatively happy. Still think these tiny shuttles are expensive but you know.... I gotta collect them all!!
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