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Star Trek & Star Wars meeting

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Hello all,

New here, but have been watching Star Trek since I was 4 and now I am 54. So I figure I have 100 years left to live if this were the 23rd century.

And so, if it were, there’d be no battles or discussions over tv networks and rights, because our current Ferenge-like societal norms would have calmed, and we could do more collaborations as a whole people. Also, even now, we can recreate a plausible set of characters that would make for a great show or series that combines old with new and looks right (kind of how young Spock and Rebecca Romijn as Number 1 looked quite passable on Discovery and Short Treks in the stuck elevator scene).

By the 23rd century we would all no longer be combative or overly egotistical barbarians born in the 20th century, and instead we would embrace all life and possibilities... a bit more tolerant of every idea and every species.

So while it’s been put out there on the interwebs before, here is just a bit of what my take on some sort of film or merger show would look like:

Star Trek is in Earth’s future. And from what many believe, Star Wars is both distant, and in a distant past.

Who is to say they weren’t the Iconians or the people that eventually became the Iconians, or whatever was falling apart when the Iconians left?

And what if, just like in many ST shows involving time travel, some ST ship and crew traveled back and somehow came across such a people? The exciting part would be as they are nearing meeting each other.

Maybe it wasn’t something the crew planned, so no one purposely broke the temporal prime directive or anything like that, but once they found themselves there, they would want to meet the people and of course there would be battles. Maybe a Borg cube followed them in and had to battle Darth Vader or join him. Who knows. Maybe they meet the rebellion and the next attractive Star Wars actress heroin and help em out but then eventually do find a way to travel back to their own future time because they must... and what Star Trek folks give to the Star Wars underdogs is a glimmer of hope that some day, some distant future does have peace in it.

I am just a dreamer. I have loved space shows since I was a kid and re watched all the TOS and later all movies and other ST series. I was there to see SW movies and have watched my kids kinda get into them (they are not so much into space stuff though). Also, of course, I watched Buck Rodgers and the original Battle Star Galactica was also awesome to watch. BattleStar fell apart once they did reach Earth, which had been the show’s goal, (and I actually have never seen the remake of that series) but it was great and I chose my name here because of that original series’s villain, Specter.

I imagine the meet up to be a thing of awe and tech, not necessarily involving who controls what network or what actors, I am approaching this like a 12 yr old kid who was into space shows.

Many episodes left one’s imagination going... like, so once the Enterprise crew beamed up and flew off, what did happen to the people on the planet? And things like that. Maybe this would explore those things.
 
The two universes are so completely different that I think it would work a lot better if they were completely separate alternate universes that one crew crossed over into.
 
How about an amalgamation of the two?

Featuring Jean Luc Skywalker, Han Sulu and princess Kira! Fighting by their sides is the mighty Chekbacca,Seven of Ninepio and Artoo-Datatwo!;)
 
I think technologically, Star Trek is far superior to Star Wars. Weapons, shields, speed--all Star Trek. In a fleet battle, I think Star Trek would destroy Star Wars. But the Force is the great equalizer.

The Federation wouldn't be able to have an answer if they ran across a ship of Force users.

That said, Plato's Stepchildren provided a blue print, where McCoy would learn of midichlorians and give Kirk double those of Vader.

Q could certainly be a match for a Force user as well. So would Gary Mitchell, and maybe Apollo, as long as Vader couldn't figure out how to destroy the temple.
 
This is why "My Enterprise can blow up your Star Destroy" arguments are so silly and childish. Technological comparison is pointless because "technology" means different things in each franchise.

Per my post above, Star Wars exists in a state of perpetual sameness. The entire conceit thrives on maintaining the status quo. The entire galaxy is charted. There's nothing left to explore. Everything is known and thus there is no purpose for advancement.

Star Trek exists in a perpetual state of discovery. The conceit thrives on the idea that there's always something to learn and more galaxy to explore and that very little is known, giving humanity a purpose to achieve newer and greater things.
 
Star Wars may have discovered many planets, but that doesn't mean there aren't unknown territories and other galaxies. We don't get a sense of their exploration. It had to exist.
 
I think technologically, Star Trek is far superior to Star Wars. Weapons, shields, speed--all Star Trek. In a fleet battle, I think Star Trek would destroy Star Wars. But the Force is the great equalizer.
They have all of those things in Star Wars too, their laser cannons really aren't that different from phasers, we see ships with shields, and Hyperdrive seems to be a hell of a lot faster than warp drive. In Star Trek it takes centuries to cross the galaxy, but in Star Wars they can do it in hours or possibly days. I'll admit, the travel times are often kind of vague in Star Wars, but it's definitely many, many times faster than what we get in Star Trek.
 
Unless you take into account worm holes and some stuff that happened w Janeway. Then Star Trek has seen space jumps that are faster.

for me it’s now so much about how st tech would be better than sw tech in a battle... it’s more about some sense of awe that might exist for the anticipation and eventual meet up of both main peoples of both shows.
Maybe it would be cool for an audience of viewers from our time but then, when Cannonball Run came out it was a great movie, but number two had too many stars so it wasn’t as good.
I dunno.
There’s going to be a point where we have seen enough new alien types and all the races have begun to get along enough and something new has to happen. I think DS 9 is great, for example, but it started to make a lot of st stuff too... every day same stuff different faces in a way.
 
Unless you take into account worm holes and some stuff that happened w Janeway. Then Star Trek has seen space jumps that are faster.
Sure, but I was just talking about standard space travel.
I love the idea of the characters from the two universes crossing over, I just think it would work better if they were completely separate universes, like when they did the Plant of the Apes, and DC crossovers.
 
This is my favourite Crossover Fanfic, written by the guy behind SFDebris reviews.

https://unitysaga.com/

I feel like both franchises are represented with respect in the story.

It starts during Season 4 or 5 of Voyager they find a Wormhole the leads across space and time, to the Endor system, around the same time that Yoda dies in ROTJ.
 
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Star Trek is in Earth’s future. And from what many believe, Star Wars is both distant, and in a distant past.

Yes, indeed. The attraction to Star Wars, for me anyway, is the escape of anything too familiar. The moment Star Wars arrives on Earth, the fantasy is shattered for me. It feels like pouring chocolate sauce on fish: two great things, not together.

I've always felt that Star Wars is propelled by mythology, with Star Trek taking on philosophy at it's core.
 
They have all of those things in Star Wars too, their laser cannons really aren't that different from phasers, we see ships with shields, and Hyperdrive seems to be a hell of a lot faster than warp drive. In Star Trek it takes centuries to cross the galaxy, but in Star Wars they can do it in hours or possibly days. I'll admit, the travel times are often kind of vague in Star Wars, but it's definitely many, many times faster than what we get in Star Trek.

You have that, and you also have Star Wars talking about light speed only. Warp is faster than light. Plus, they rarely talk about time as you point out. I always got the impression that the galaxy is smaller and Star Wars doesn't use realistic distances. So I wouldn't go that far.

I don't think their lasers are as powerful as photon torpedoes or phasers. Of course, the Death Star is a big deal, I will give you that.

What would be interesting to me would be where would the Star Wars galaxy be in the Star Trek era?

Star Wars is a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away. Let's put a quantification on that. 1000 years? Where would the Star Wars universe be in the Star Trek era, which is a long time FROM now?

If you factor THAT in, then one would have to assume that Star Wars tech would be better. However, Star Trek tech seems superior to Star Wars tech, at least on the battle field.

The Force is the equalizer.
 
I figure sw is in the past
Like iconians

the death star is an awesome force
But one small missle shaped genesis device launched by Kirks son 100 years before Janeway and the borg were a known thing can pretty much decimate a planet imo

as for the force... yup it is great too but so are borg and dominion and spocks ability to knock you out by grabbing your neck. Or a changeling shapeshifter just being anything it wants
 
A Genesis torpedo would beat the death star. It also causes as much damage, and is easier to make, assuming the tech wasn't lost.

Of course, maybe the tech was lost, as it sure would have made a great weapon against the Borg.

I guess that's another topic.

I don't think the Star Wars tech could match anything Borg related. If they adapt to the Death Star, then only the Force can help, and there aren't enough Force users to stop the Borg. Plus, the Borg could overwhelm any force user with numbers. Just like the Clone Troopers overwhelmed the Jedi.
 
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