Jumping to warp in plain view over a village of a non-warp species? K...
Spoilers Star Trek: Short Treks 1x03 - "The Brightest Star"
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Highly enjoyable but too little time. Just A Taste of Armageddon-esque.
It's my favorite short trek so far. I'm kinda hopeful that these do tie into season 2 and we might get a more Kelpian side to the story. This story reminded me of Kes in Caretaker, wanting to go to the surface and then joining Voyager.
So much stuff on tonight, The Game Wards, S
it is pre-TOS, they weren’t as strict back then
Better to get out of view fast than to just parade across the sky me thinks.............
I liked the episode a lot actually, but that bothered me too.
But it seems they were more lax before Kirk's era back then.
Hell, Kirk was nonchalant about breaking the PD in more ways than one.
Saru's decision was heartbreaking though.
Not as good as Calypso, however good background story. Learned some new things:
New race called Baoul (have warp capable fragile ships, that are constantly falling apart and litter planet Kelpia) They also harvest Kelpians for food. Federation knows them and knows about the Kelpians. Saru is extremly smart. He is a technical genius and a master translator. (copies the word TODAY and knows to leave his village that very night). Captain is also a genius, she flys down and lands in front of a pre warp being and guesses correctly that hes the one who sent the message via the modified sub space becon.
WOW the more I think about it......
New race called Baoul (have warp capable fragile ships, that are constantly falling apart and litter planet Kelpia) They also harvest Kelpians for food. Federation knows them and knows about the Kelpians. Saru is extremly smart. He is a technical genius and a master translator. (copies the word TODAY and knows to leave his village that very night). Captain is also a genius, she flys down and lands in front of a pre warp being and guesses correctly that hes the one who sent the message via the modified sub space becon.
WOW the more I think about it......
Georgiou was only a Lieutenant. I think the shown lapse in judgment was intentional, meant to drive home she's still inexperienced at this point in her career.
Also, given the Red Octoberesque shift in the dialog at the end, I assume the beacon had some kind of internal translator.
Also, given the Red Octoberesque shift in the dialog at the end, I assume the beacon had some kind of internal translator.
Saru was going to rebel and free his world(or die trying) until Pip plucked him out.
Although the entire village, a few thousand people maybe, would have been frakked from orbit, if the predators figured out some of their food was playing with their technology.
Similar probably to how slaves in Stargate were not allowed to read.
Although the entire village, a few thousand people maybe, would have been frakked from orbit, if the predators figured out some of their food was playing with their technology.
Similar probably to how slaves in Stargate were not allowed to read.
I wonder if the Baul are a new race or if that's just what Kelpiens call a previously-established group.
What's the (extra) harm?
If the ship is going to take off and leave, it's sort of irrelevant whether this happens at sublight or warp. A brief flash in the sky isn't suggestive of FTL capabilities as such; and getting airborne is enough of a miracle already.
Timo Saloniemi
Picard time-portaled in view of Bozeman, Montana in First Contact. That was "movie Picard" though.
The "This is how it has always been" line was shifty.
I gave it a 9, would of went "10" but the brevity of these things hurts them. This should have been a full episode of Discovery. Feel like the stuff with Saru's family was good but wanted more. Wanted to see these predators that hunt them on their planet as well. And wanted to learn more of this race that was abducting or claiming Kelpians for whatever reason. Again, the brevity hurts the stories. Otherwise, this was my favorite Short Trek so far, though next episode with Mudd looks great too.
Good stuff, but the limited format IS a problem for me.
Good stuff, but the limited format IS a problem for me.
Are the Predators and the Baul two different things?
If a predator was attacking their live stock, you think that the Baul would be doing something about it? It's their property and maybe livelihood!
Oh.
The first "safe" Kelpians agreed to be live stock for the Baul, and agreed to preach a religion that would lead every subsequent generation to slaughter meekly, in exchange for the extermination of the predators.
What the frakk is "the pain of the Hori?"
If a predator was attacking their live stock, you think that the Baul would be doing something about it? It's their property and maybe livelihood!
Oh.
The first "safe" Kelpians agreed to be live stock for the Baul, and agreed to preach a religion that would lead every subsequent generation to slaughter meekly, in exchange for the extermination of the predators.
What the frakk is "the pain of the Hori?"
The threat ganglia tickle when the predator approaches, and then they run.
The pain of living gets too much, so 10 people a "cycle" walk into a transporter scoop willingly, to be sent to a Baul meat processing plant.
That seems like two very different things.
HOWEVER!!!
The Federation would have the REAL history of Kaminar, not some bullshit made up history that the Baul tell heir food to keep them docile and tender.
We don't know if what Saru told us about his home in season one, is what he learnt on Kaminar from experience or after he left Kaminar from a book.
The pain of living gets too much, so 10 people a "cycle" walk into a transporter scoop willingly, to be sent to a Baul meat processing plant.
That seems like two very different things.
HOWEVER!!!
The Federation would have the REAL history of Kaminar, not some bullshit made up history that the Baul tell heir food to keep them docile and tender.
We don't know if what Saru told us about his home in season one, is what he learnt on Kaminar from experience or after he left Kaminar from a book.
Now that was a good Sci Fi story that fits the Star Trek ethos. It presented an interesting twist on the Kelpiens being a "prey" species - certainly not what I (or most, I'm willing to bet) were expecting, and did a lot of solid world building with some pleasantly stunning production values. I'm looking forward to the return in season two.
There definitely was some suspension of disbelief - no technology in sight, but he's able to manipulate this stuff enough to communicate with Starfleet? Georgiou is able to convince Starfleet to break all their rules for some rando? Warp speed in the atmosphere, in plain sight of the natives? Although the story wasn't strong enough to make me not notice these things, I still enjoyed it quite a bit.
And hey, that cameo at the end was pretty awesome.
There definitely was some suspension of disbelief - no technology in sight, but he's able to manipulate this stuff enough to communicate with Starfleet? Georgiou is able to convince Starfleet to break all their rules for some rando? Warp speed in the atmosphere, in plain sight of the natives? Although the story wasn't strong enough to make me not notice these things, I still enjoyed it quite a bit.
And hey, that cameo at the end was pretty awesome.
Very nice spoiler filled interview with Doug Jones about this Short Trek up over at The Hollywood Reporter:
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/l...s-brightest-star-doug-jones-interview-1165998
Q2
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/l...s-brightest-star-doug-jones-interview-1165998
Q2
You know how every warning sign that exists today, exists because somebody did something stupid in the past?
The PD pre & post Kirk probably have massive differences, and most/all of the new sections & subsections start off with "KIRK Addendum #xx-"
Post TOS captains probably curse the name of James T. Kirk.
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