I guess you never read the nitpickers guide to star trek books by Phil Farrand. There are a few of them. Great reads.
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Spoilers STAR TREK: SECTION 31 - Grading & Discussion
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While he does make some good points and can be amusing at times, he also tends to be a bit too nitpicky, like pointing out every time a ship or prop or costume or matte painting gets reused.
I love it. I mean with multiple views as kids we all noticed that stuff. I did anyway. When ive seen an episode more than once I start looking at the sets and props in way more detail. Its fun.
Sure.
And then I watched the episode for fun. And enjoyment. Maybe even because I liked it.
Not to nitpick.
Still it doesn't change the fact that nitpicking the tv series and movies forever is a star trek fans birthright. Its part of the fun for a lot of us.
Lots of things are my birthright.
I choose to do things that brings me joy and appreciation of the thing I love.
Thats exactly what us star trek nitpickers do. It brings us joy.
The first time I watch an episode, I just allow that story to take me where it wants to and enjoy the ride. After the ride ends, it was either a satisfying tale or it wasn't.
It's only after the fact that I engage in the nitpicks and the continuity debates, because indeed that is part of the fun of being a fan, but I never let those alter that first viewing experience.
It's only after the fact that I engage in the nitpicks and the continuity debates, because indeed that is part of the fun of being a fan, but I never let those alter that first viewing experience.
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Okay, I'm imagining it.
Does it go well? Especially when you use the "No true Scotsman " argument to tell them their flaws?
Obviously you've never met my mother.
On a more serious note, I do think criticism and nitpicking from fans can show they care about something. I think it's like a relationship. If someone is upset and offering up what their problem is with something, that's a much better place to build from than someone who shows no reaction at all. Usually, when someone doesn't care enough to show concern, becomes cold and distant, it's about to be over.
A significant amount of Trek fans aren't "hating" on this just to troll. There are fans of Star Trek that care about this, see the problems, and want a version Star Trek that's better than this.
What should scare people is if people ever stop complaining and nitpicking. Because at that point the audience will have abandoned the property.
When it comes to S31, that's basically what I've done since I saw it. Through that, I've actually come to enjoy it more.
Apathy is a killer.
Not sure where that came from. We nitpick star trek.
No but I've been nitpicked over a job and never felt I could do anything right. That's no fun.
To a point but to me the nitpicking gets to a place of hunting for things to be wrong.
To be honest that's just as bad as nitpicking minor errors since it gives the production a pass for things that are so blatantly wrong that their mere existence ejects viewers from the story.
Sure, if you say so.
I love going in to a story looking for the wrongness of things. It's so much like real life that I forget I'm watching a film for enjoyment and criticize it the same way I would real life.
It's much better that way, amiright?
Is that not just the nature of being passionate about a story, it needs to rely on staying power. Unless of course it is designed to be a one off bit of silly fun you're not meant to think about ever again. But long running franchises are meant to promote engagement, analysis, passion and investment over the long term and sometimes imperfections will show. Now it's what you do when you discover said that really matters.
Who said anything about going into a story looking for the wrongness?
Because you don't have to go into something looking for logical inconsistencies for one to drag you out of the story. It's why things like the Discovery turbolift fight through Tardis space are so heavily panned, it's just such a blatant production side failure that your slapped in the face with the fact that it's a production side failure.
