Well even if/when SNW does, it for one episode, and doesn't carry throughout an entire season.
Spoilers STAR TREK: SECTION 31 - Grading & Discussion
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Yeah, I'm talking about seasons overall. It does have a lot of variety within seasons.
I mean, ratings wise it literally is the worst.
No, it’s the worst.
Not even close.
What do you view as worse?
Oh, jeez. But what of Lazarus? The Alternative Factor is all over the place with our heroes acting like absolute imbeciles letting a known threat to stroll around the ship by himself, it's internally inconsistent with stuff like Lazarus beard, the "winking out" effect, the editing is amateurishly sloppy, the pseudoscience is bad even for Star Trek -- how exactly is Kirk's strolling around at anti-matter universe without vaporizing himself? The whole thing comes off as an amateurish fan film.
Shades of Gray. At least Section 31 wasn't a hastily written clip show with no real plot.
Profit and Lace. Now THIS one is just embarrassing.
Section 31 didn't have the abject racism of Code of Honor, the embarrassing proselytizing of Let He Who is Without Sin, the sheer "WTF?" of Threshold. It was never straight up boring, like large sections of Enterprise season 2.
I'm not defending the Section 31 movie. It was not a good movie. But the worst Star Trek ever? Again, not even close.
Shades of Gray. At least Section 31 wasn't a hastily written clip show with no real plot.
Profit and Lace. Now THIS one is just embarrassing.
Section 31 didn't have the abject racism of Code of Honor, the embarrassing proselytizing of Let He Who is Without Sin, the sheer "WTF?" of Threshold. It was never straight up boring, like large sections of Enterprise season 2.
I'm not defending the Section 31 movie. It was not a good movie. But the worst Star Trek ever? Again, not even close.
I recently finished rewatching all the older Trek and there is some really bad stuff in there. Section 31 is not a good movie, but I'd rank it above things like:
The Alternative Factor, And the Children Shall Lead, Code of Honor, The Outrageous Okona, Shades of Gray, The Host, Cost of Living, Homeward, Masks, Profit and Lace, The Emperor's New Cloak, Cold Fire, Coda, Darkling, Dear Doctor, Fusion, Two Days and Two Nights, Ephraim and Dot, First Con-tact and honestly, I'm kind of leaning towards Final Frontier being worse as well.
The Alternative Factor, And the Children Shall Lead, Code of Honor, The Outrageous Okona, Shades of Gray, The Host, Cost of Living, Homeward, Masks, Profit and Lace, The Emperor's New Cloak, Cold Fire, Coda, Darkling, Dear Doctor, Fusion, Two Days and Two Nights, Ephraim and Dot, First Con-tact and honestly, I'm kind of leaning towards Final Frontier being worse as well.
Weirdly Threshold is kind of fun because of that, it's like an episode of Legends of Tomorrow.
The only thing I would argue that makes Section 31 worse than the other examples you mention is that - other than Georgiou (though this is stretching it) - there are no characters in the movie we give two shits about. There's so little excuse for us to care or be invested about the nothingness that's going on for ninety-five minutes.
The bad episodes in the other shows at least have characters that mean something to us, so there's some silver lining to be found. Or, in the case of Code of Honor, it's got a banger of a score by Fred Steiner - I can't say the same of Jeff Russo's work.
I actually found it quite easy to very quickly invest in the characters, they were here for a fun ride and so was I.
I felt shock when Melle died and sad when Zeph died
I must be one of the few that really like The Alternative Factor. Lol. Its such a strange episode that didn't fully make use of a good concept. The concept itself is what I like about it. I found the episode entertaining. The camera quality lacks a bit in the episode though.
Nearly the entire cast was little more than archetypes, plugged in where necessary to fulfill plot requirements.
The Dirty Dozen, it ain't.
The Surly Half Dozen, more like.
I was invested enough to write a fanfic.
I can see what you're saying but we may be treading into a question of what kind of "worst" we're talking about.
I can include Alternative Factor, Profit and Lace and Code of Honor in a rewatch.
I'll skip Shades of Gray and Threshold. Though I may do Threshold if I'm in the right mood to "put up with it," and even SoG if my mind wants to see the "new" parts again. This? This I'll never watch again. There's nothing in it TOO watch.
They shouldn't have killed anybody in Act 1 IMO.
They should've killed Mell by the end of Act 2 by the "False Traitor".
Then discover that the "False Traitor" wasn't really the traitor, but a victim by the middle of Act 3.
Then Wrap up the movie IMO.
They should've killed Mell by the end of Act 2 by the "False Traitor".
Then discover that the "False Traitor" wasn't really the traitor, but a victim by the middle of Act 3.
Then Wrap up the movie IMO.
Oh, there was all sorts of way they could have better structured the movie. They could have gotten the story off to a much faster start by having Georgiou find out about the Godsend coming to the station on her own and have her be the one to contact Section 31, rather than the opposite. That would have given them another 10 minutes or so to tell the story.
The amount of ways they could've re-structured the movie to be a good Sci-Fi / Action film hybrid that takes place in Star Trek is crazy.
