Star Trek: Rumors

[RandyS]

Re: Star Trek: Dirty Laundry (Truth and Rumors)

Apparently, it was George Takei who pushed for Sulu to be a Captain in TUC, William Shatner claims he was only against the idea, because it would mean less screen time for Takei if all the action was taking place aboard the Enterprise, who knows, but this is just another footnote in the feud between these two

I've read a lot of the books the actors have written, and Takei's states that the promotion to captain for Sulu had been written in the script for TWOK, and was even attempted to be filmed -- but that Shatner kept giving such a shitty, monotone performance, rushing through it, that Meyer got disgusted and abandoned the whole idea.

Which can't be true because the scripts never contained such a scene.

I can't confirm that, but I know for a fact that the novelization did. Reading that book was the first time I had ever heard of the Excelsior, and then, two years later, when I saw Star Trek III, and the Excelsior appeared, I remember thinking "hey, there's Sulu's ship", then the scene where Morrow announces that the Enterprise was gonna be scrapped, and I assumed that at some point in the movie, we would see Sulu get that command. We didn't, obviously, but the tie-in was there.

 

[Mr Silver]

Avery Brooks is responsible for leaving the possibility of Sisko eventually returning in "What You Leave Behind", the reason being he felt that it would reinforce the "Racial Stereotype" of a Black man leaving his Partner and Kids (Brooks is a well known campaigner against Racism)

Eddie Murphy admits that he "Regrets passing up TVH for another film" and has said that TVH was the superior effort from Paramount

 

[JarodRussell]

Re: Star Trek: Dirty Laundry (Truth and Rumors)

I've read a lot of the books the actors have written, and Takei's states that the promotion to captain for Sulu had been written in the script for TWOK, and was even attempted to be filmed -- but that Shatner kept giving such a shitty, monotone performance, rushing through it, that Meyer got disgusted and abandoned the whole idea.

Which can't be true because the scripts never contained such a scene.

I can't confirm that, but I know for a fact that the novelization did. Reading that book was the first time I had ever heard of the Excelsior, and then, two years later, when I saw Star Trek III, and the Excelsior appeared, I remember thinking "hey, there's Sulu's ship", then the scene where Morrow announces that the Enterprise was gonna be scrapped, and I assumed that at some point in the movie, we would see Sulu get that command. We didn't, obviously, but the tie-in was there.

The novel has a short bit during Sulu's and Kirk's flight to the Enterprise where Kirk congratulates him and says he's going to miss him when he takes command. But no promotion scene, AFAICR.

 

[T'Girl]

- Kirstie Alley was misinformed about how much other people got salary wise, so when TSFS came around, she asked for a sum of money that was twice what they paid DeForest Kelley. Which is why she walked when they refused and offered her much less.

Alternate version. In Star Trek TWOK, Kristie Alley was paid basically as an extra, which made sense from a career point of view for her, it was a chance to be in a major motion picture in a prominent role. After TWOK Alley's acting star began to rise, when TSFS came around, Alley was offered hardly more than she received for TWOK, Alley figured (correctly) that she had been a major player in TWOK, and she wanted sixth billing in the credits - after Kelley - and the salary that whet along with that. More money than most of the other TOS actors, an agreement could not be reached.

The year TSFS came out Kristie Alley appeared in three movies and she did a (failed) TV pilot. I thought the movie Blind Date was excellent and Runaway gave her a lot of notice.

She would have IMHO been better in the role of Saavik than Curtis was, Curtis was instructed by Nimoy to be a stiff Vulcan, Alley likely would have played Saavik similar to her previous performance.

Eddie Murphy admits that he "Regrets passing up TVH for another film" and has said that TVH was the superior effort from Paramount

I never have found out exactly what Murphy would have played in TVH, except vague generalities, would he have played a male version of the Gillian Taylor character?

 

[Lonemagpie]

I never have found out exactly what Murphy would have played in TVH, except vague generalities, would he have played a male version of the Gillian Taylor character?

He'd have been an Art Bell type radio host who suspects our heroes of being aliens:

http://trekweb.com/articles/2009/11...die-Murphy-Star-Trek-IV-Spock-and-Obama.shtml