Star Trek: Rebirth Of The Federation

[All Seeing Eye]

This new series is set aboard the new Klingon/Federation Alliance Flagship IKS Vach'Do. The new ship has been designed and built as a joint venture between Starfleet and the Klingon Empire and holds a joint crew as well as joint technology and aesthetics.
During its maiden voyage it detects elevated neutrinos and decides to investigated the possibility of a new wormhole.
They find the wormhole and all scans show it to be completely stable, they send through a probe and telemetry is sent back from the other side and they determine it connects the Chefron system on the new outskirts of Klingon space with the Denga system just beyond the furthest reaches of Federation space.

This new discovery would mean instantaneous travel of 16,000 lightyears from the farthest ends of the Federation & Klingon Empire.

General Kroll orders the ship to traverse the wormhole and a course is set. As the ship is within the wormhole however there is a chronoton spike throughout the entire wormhole and the ship is hit by chronoton discharges.

The ship leaves the wormhole with minimal damage but they soon realise they're in the Denga system but the ship is now 111 years into the future and to top it all off the chronoton discharge caused by the ship traversing the wormhole has completely collapsed it meaning no way back.

The ship sets course for the Federation to find assistance but the crew soon realise that something is wrong.
They cannot detect any sign of the Federation or any other space faring vessels.
Kroll orders activation of the cloaking device until they can determine what the hell is going on.

They reach the Federation world of Hethna III a once thriving colony only to find a barren world. They move on to the next nearest colony and find the once lush world of Kalonda is now a crater filled world with hundreds of mining facilities controlled from what appears to be orbital weapons platforms of unknown origin and technology and a small station.

General Kroll orders a cloaked shuttle to the surface to find out what's happening.
The shuttle manages to evade the weapons platforms and lands in a clearing near to a mining base. The team head out to the facility to try and mingle in and see what's going on.

The team eventually find out that the entire Alpha, Beta and Gamma Quadrants are now under complete control of the Hephaniun Empire. The Federation, Klingon Empire and every other Empire have been conquered, Earth and Quo'nos were obliterated completely and no ships other than Hephaniun ships are allowed to traverse space.
A miner alerts the team to the location of a resistance movement with ships and weapons and agrees to divulge the location for passage off of Kalonda. The team reluctantly agrees and takes him aboard the Vach'Do.

To cut a long story short, they locate the resistance movement and attempt to find a way to return to their own time to prevent the Hephaniun invasion from happening. Whilst they try to find a way back however they aid the resistance the best they can.

 

[Scout101]

Feels like about half an episode, at best, rather than a series. And forces us to stomache more time travel, just for the sake of it. Why wouldn't they just use any of the dozen or so ways they know of to travel back to where they came from, and the series would end in 44 minutes? Probably a dozen "thrown into a future gone wrong" episodes of Trek already...

As they are thrown 111 years into the future, their tech is likely LESS than no match for the enemy, seeing as how slightly more advanced versions of this tech already completely failed to withstand the bad guys. Can't imagine the cloak would be even a little useful, as the whole Klingon race was conquered, and they all had it, right?

Voyager displaced in time instead of space, which is too gimmicky for me...

 

[All Seeing Eye]

Why wouldn't they just use any of the dozen or so ways they know of to travel back to where they came from, and the series would end in 44 minutes?

Such as? Flying at warp around a star or however it was done required calculations by Spock, Spock isn't on this ship.
Any other time they've had to use alternate tech to time travel. The Enterprise only managed it in FC because they had Borg tech to look at. I'd like to add also that a deflector dish may be able to project chronoton particles but just having the particles does not constitute time travel. A time travel device is normally required which Fed/Klingon ships don't just carry around with them.

As they are thrown 111 years into the future, their tech is likely LESS than no match for the enemy, seeing as how slightly more advanced versions of this tech already completely failed to withstand the bad guys.

That's why the ship will get upgrades by the resistance but since it's a new state of the art ship it's technology and weapons is still pretty impressive 111 years down the line anyway.

Can't imagine the cloak would be even a little useful, as the whole Klingon race was conquered, and they all had it, right?

The Klingon Empire was conquered by being outnumbered and overwhelmed. It's thanks to the cloaking devices that the resistance exists at all. It's through stealth the resistance stands any kind if chance against the Hephaniun.
I also stated that they sent a cloaked shuttle to the surface of the mining planet. Smaller cloaked craft are capable of getting through un-detected but that does not mean larger ships can get away with such a feat, at least not all the time.
Also the Hephaniun need to actively scan for cloaked ships which they rarely do outside of key planetary systems as they are too arrogant to think the resistance poses a significant threat.

 

[Scout101]

Why wouldn't they just use any of the dozen or so ways they know of to travel back to where they came from, and the series would end in 44 minutes?

Such as? Flying at warp around a star or however it was done required calculations by Spock, Spock isn't on this ship.
Any other time they've had to use alternate tech to time travel. The Enterprise only managed it in FC because they had Borg tech to look at. I'd like to add also that a deflector dish may be able to project chronoton particles but just having the particles does not constitute time travel. A time travel device is normally required which Fed/Klingon ships don't just carry around with them.

Spock didn't invent most of them on the fly, seemed like he knew about most of them from at least a theoretical standpoint. All likely now in the Starfleet databases, though, and any later ships would have it. Slingshots, wormholes, alien tech, Guardian of Forever, random tricks with the deflector dish, we've seen it done a million different ways. Most of which would be written up in after-mission debriefing reports, and available to future crews.

As they are thrown 111 years into the future, their tech is likely LESS than no match for the enemy, seeing as how slightly more advanced versions of this tech already completely failed to withstand the bad guys.

That's why the ship will get upgrades by the resistance but since it's a new state of the art ship it's technology and weapons is still pretty impressive 111 years down the line anyway.

I get that, but these mysterious aliens conquered the Federation and the Klingons sometime AFTER that ship was built. If it was 20 minutes after they disappeared, you might be right, but too much later, and this state of the art ship would be just another ship in the fleet. If it had any sort of tech that actually gives it an advantage, you didn't mention it. Things like the cloaking device would almost surely be useless, though, as it would have been countered (or just useless) as part of the Klingon destruction. These aliens have had decades (somewhere between 1 and 11) to counter any tech that existed when this ship left, it seems unlikely it has many surprises.

Kirk's Enterprise was state of the art, but Picard would have swatted it aside without a thought, and that was only 75-80 years. Kirk would have shot down Archer without blinking. A bi-plane was state of the art in WWI, but wanna fly one against a modern jet fighter? An unmanned Predator drone would make the Red Baron it's bitch. 100 years represents a lot of progress, and by skipping ahead, you're likely to be at a massive disadvantage. The bad guys are upgrading tech they already wiped out your species with, and you're coming at them with weapons they've already defeated.

Can't imagine the cloak would be even a little useful, as the whole Klingon race was conquered, and they all had it, right?

The Klingon Empire was conquered by being outnumbered and overwhelmed. It's thanks to the cloaking devices that the resistance exists at all. It's through stealth the resistance stands any kind if chance against the Hephaniun.
I also stated that they sent a cloaked shuttle to the surface of the mining planet. Smaller cloaked craft are capable of getting through un-detected but that does not mean larger ships can get away with such a feat, at least not all the time.
Also the Hephaniun need to actively scan for cloaked ships which they rarely do outside of key planetary systems as they are too arrogant to think the resistance poses a significant threat.

certainly possible, I guess (that they got lazy, thinking they got everyone), but given the time difference, seems probable that they'd have developed a countermeasure to the cloak by now. And not one that makes it easier to find, more like one that just lights up a cloaked ship like a Christmas tree. The 111 years you picked just seems like too much time to overcome. 10-15 years, 20 maybe, would at least give this ship a chance of being relevant. If the cloak gave the Klingons any sort of advantage, the bad guys would have figured out a counter in the last century...

 

[All Seeing Eye]

The Dominion existed and was space faring for 1000 years prior to the Dominion War and yet their tech over that 1000 years had barely developed that much farther than the Federations.
Time is not a factor when it comes to technology in Trek, some species develop technology faster and some slower.
There is also no reason to believe the Hephaniun technology was better or equal to that of the Klingons or Federation when they defeated them. I said they were outnumbered, overwhelmed and I'll add taken by surprise.
You also don't know how long ago (prior to the time the Vach'Do is now in) the Hephaniun had defeated the Klingons.

There is therefore no reason to believe a Klingon ship from 111 years in the past can't still be a decent match against the Hephaniun especially if they get upgrades from the resistance.

Consider Stargate as an example, the wraith conquered the far far far more advanced Ancients by shear numbers. They just kept on coming. The Hephaniun had numbers on their side and the element of surprise. This does not mean they had technology more advanced than the klingons nor that they developed countermeasures against cloaking devices.

Consider also that without an enemy, technology development might likely stagnate. If they've taken control of almost all the major powers in the Milky Way they wont have much to fear.

One last thing. The Klingons and Romulans know more about cloaking than most other races and yet the Klingons don't have the ability to find cloaked Romulan ships and the Romulans don't have the ability to find cloaked Klingon ships. In fact I'm pretty sure that without the relevant transponder signal a cloaked Klingon ship can't even find another cloaked klingon ship.
Having cloak technology does not immediately mean you have the ability to penetrate it.

 

[Scout101]

What's the draw to the series, then? If the bad guys had the sheer numbers to destroy both the Federation and the Klingon empire, one ship from an earlier time period can't really stand much of a chance. Unless it's some uber-ship, which isn't all that interesting to watch.

Basing a series around a time travel gimmick is a no-go for me. They're trying to find their way back, while being outnumbered and on the run, which is basically the plot to Voyager again, except in this case, there should be about 40 entries in the ship's database on ways they can travel back to their own time, and the potential viewers of this show have already seen them all done. The crew has to play dumb, or the viewers have to pretend they don't already have 40 solutions to the problem.

Also, being a 'time travel to the future' show, tough to care about anything, as it doesn't really matter. They're going to get home eventually, so nothing they do in the future really matters, as you've stated that the goal is to prevent it all from happening anyway. Otherwise, if you're planning that they NOT get home, or are otherwise unable to prevent this future from happening, you're better off skipping the time travel gimmick completely, and just show this ship as the last survivor of a massive invasion, trying to overthrow the attackers. But then you've basically just repeated Battlestar Galactica, as they're outnumbered and are going to have to run...

 

[Quinton O'Connor]

I'd kind of like to know how in the heck there are four people posting at once up there.

 

[All Seeing Eye]

I'd kind of like to know how in the heck there are four people posting at once up there.

I am Legion for I am many.

 

[T'Girl]

What will a average episode be like anyway?

The IKS Vast~Doo blows up some Hephaniun ships,
The mixed crew (who all get along perfectly after the first episode) sit around and talk about getting "home,"

Blow up some more Hephaniun ships,
Help out the resistance (too accomplishing what anyway?).

Explore a new way of getting "home," (which would end the series).
Blow up some more Hephaniun ships.

Find out that before they wormholed that a Hephaniun spy somehow got on board (Seska).
Discuss do they stay in the future and re-establish the Commonwealth ... err, the Federation/Empire.

Techno-babble replicate a solution to a problem, and then forget the solution in the very next episode.
Blow up some more Hephaniun ships,

Listen to the Captain make his "one ship can make a difference" speech yet again.

.

 

[All Seeing Eye]

What will a average episode be like anyway?

The IKS Vast~Doo blows up some Hephaniun ships,
The mixed crew (who all get along perfectly after the first episode) sit around and talk about getting "home,"

Blow up some more Hephaniun ships,
Help out the resistance (too accomplishing what anyway?).

Explore a new way of getting "home," (which would end the series).
Blow up some more Hephaniun ships.

Find out that before they wormholed that a Hephaniun spy somehow got on board (Seska).
Discuss do they stay in the future and re-establish the Commonwealth ... err, the Federation/Empire.

Techno-babble replicate a solution to a problem, and then forget the solution in the very next episode.
Blow up some more Hephaniun ships,

Listen to the Captain make his "one ship can make a difference" speech yet again.

.

I have episode ideas and story arc ideas and they're the complete opposite of what you've said here.

 

[T'Girl]

Discuss do they stay in the future and re-establish the Commonwealth ... err, the Federation/Empire.

I have episode ideas and story arc ideas and they're the complete opposite of what you've said here.

From your use of the title "Rebirth Of The Federation" it does sound like this will be a basic recurring theme, no?

 

[Scout101]

Agreed. Lay out your ideas, if they're so different from what's been assumed and appears obvious...

 

[FordSVT]

What will a average episode be like anyway?

The IKS Vast~Doo blows up some Hephaniun ships,
The mixed crew (who all get along perfectly after the first episode) sit around and talk about getting "home,"

Blow up some more Hephaniun ships,
Help out the resistance (too accomplishing what anyway?).

Explore a new way of getting "home," (which would end the series).
Blow up some more Hephaniun ships.

Find out that before they wormholed that a Hephaniun spy somehow got on board (Seska).
Discuss do they stay in the future and re-establish the Commonwealth ... err, the Federation/Empire.

Techno-babble replicate a solution to a problem, and then forget the solution in the very next episode.
Blow up some more Hephaniun ships,

Listen to the Captain make his "one ship can make a difference" speech yet again.

.

I have episode ideas and story arc ideas and they're the complete opposite of what you've said here.

The IKS Vast~Doo doesn't blow up some Hephaniun ships,
The mixed crew (who don't get along perfectly after the first episode) stand around and talk about staying in the future.

Don't blow up some more Hephaniun ships, and don't help out the resistance.

Decide to stay in the future without re-establishing the Commonwealth ... err, the Federation/Empire.

Use the knowledge of past episodes to come to a solution to the problem (oh wait, you already said they wouldn't know any of the previously used time travel methods).
Bypass the chance to blow up some more Hephaniun ships.

Listen to the Captain make his drunken "we're all fucked" speech yet again.


I don't get it: if the title is "Rebirth of the Federation", why are they trying to get home and stop it instead of rebuilding the Federation? Or are they staying? What?

 

[T'Girl]

Listen to the Captain make his drunken "we're all fucked" speech yet again.

Actual a Starfleet captain who's constantly drunk might be an interesting change.

I envision someone like Reverend Jim from the old Taxi series, a fun fun drunken stoner like character. Maybe?

 

[All Seeing Eye]

What will a average episode be like anyway?

The IKS Vast~Doo blows up some Hephaniun ships,
The mixed crew (who all get along perfectly after the first episode) sit around and talk about getting "home,"

Blow up some more Hephaniun ships,
Help out the resistance (too accomplishing what anyway?).

Explore a new way of getting "home," (which would end the series).
Blow up some more Hephaniun ships.

Find out that before they wormholed that a Hephaniun spy somehow got on board (Seska).
Discuss do they stay in the future and re-establish the Commonwealth ... err, the Federation/Empire.

Techno-babble replicate a solution to a problem, and then forget the solution in the very next episode.
Blow up some more Hephaniun ships,

Listen to the Captain make his "one ship can make a difference" speech yet again.

.

I have episode ideas and story arc ideas and they're the complete opposite of what you've said here.

The IKS Vast~Doo doesn't blow up some Hephaniun ships,
The mixed crew (who don't get along perfectly after the first episode) stand around and talk about staying in the future.

Don't blow up some more Hephaniun ships, and don't help out the resistance.

Decide to stay in the future without re-establishing the Commonwealth ... err, the Federation/Empire.

Use the knowledge of past episodes to come to a solution to the problem (oh wait, you already said they wouldn't know any of the previously used time travel methods).
Bypass the chance to blow up some more Hephaniun ships.

Listen to the Captain make his drunken "we're all fucked" speech yet again.


I don't get it: if the title is "Rebirth of the Federation", why are they trying to get home and stop it instead of rebuilding the Federation? Or are they staying? What?

Stay tuned to your TV set because if my idea gets green lighted you'll get to see it and all will be revealed.

 

[Shatnertage]

I like the idea of the Hephanium conquering the Federation--I see them as a race of Borg nanotech-enhanced Hugh Hefner clones.

This has some real possibilities, guys.

 

[FordSVT]

I have episode ideas and story arc ideas and they're the complete opposite of what you've said here.

The IKS Vast~Doo doesn't blow up some Hephaniun ships,
The mixed crew (who don't get along perfectly after the first episode) stand around and talk about staying in the future.

Don't blow up some more Hephaniun ships, and don't help out the resistance.

Decide to stay in the future without re-establishing the Commonwealth ... err, the Federation/Empire.

Use the knowledge of past episodes to come to a solution to the problem (oh wait, you already said they wouldn't know any of the previously used time travel methods).
Bypass the chance to blow up some more Hephaniun ships.

Listen to the Captain make his drunken "we're all fucked" speech yet again.


I don't get it: if the title is "Rebirth of the Federation", why are they trying to get home and stop it instead of rebuilding the Federation? Or are they staying? What?

Stay tuned to your TV set because if my idea gets green lighted you'll get to see it and all will be revealed.

If I said what I thought I'd get a warning.

 

[tharpdevenport]

The Borg were never really defeated. Just a set a course for Borg space, tell 'em about the enemy, and everybody can just be assimilated.

OR ask Q really, really nicely why he forgot about caring about the human race and can he "please wipe out that evil concuring species?".

 

[All Seeing Eye]

The Borg were never really defeated. Just a set a course for Borg space, tell 'em about the enemy, and everybody can just be assimilated.

Well like I said, the Alpha, Beta and Gamma Quadrants are under Hephaniun control, the reason they don't control the Delta is because they're keeping away from the Borg but fact of the matter is you're talking at least a 35 to 40 years journey to reach Borg territory and if they did tell the Borg about the Hephaniun it would mean the assimilation of all species in the Alpha Quadrant including Humans.

OR ask Q really, really nicely why he forgot about caring about the human race and can he "please wipe out that evil concuring species?".

He's not really that nice a guy.