Star Trek Raven Indiegogo campaign
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You mean this?
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Is this a joke or is it meant for real. Guys (and gals), if you want 22000 Dollars from your fans, please show them that you can at least manage the very basics of film making. For one, I couldn´t understand a word you were saying because of the ultra poor audio quality. Furthermore, if you want to go greenscreen on you movie, fine - but then at least show that you can do it. Greenscreen is more then just filter out the big green areas!
This makes Equinox attempt almost look good...
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Is this a joke or is it meant for real. Guys (and gals), if you want 22000 Dollars from your fans, please show them that you can at least manage the very basics of film making. For one, I couldn´t understand a word you were saying because of the ultra poor audio quality. Furthermore, if you want to go greenscreen on you movie, fine - but then at least show that you can do it. Greenscreen is more then just filter out the big green areas!
This makes Equinox attempt almost look good...
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The list of failed fundraising attempts at Indigogo is rather impressive:
https://www.indiegogo.com/explore?filter_title=star+trek&search_text=star+trek
Only 2 made it - Renegades and Phase2
https://www.indiegogo.com/explore?filter_title=star+trek&search_text=star+trek
Only 2 made it - Renegades and Phase2
It seems to me that the biggest problems these campaigns face is that they're extremely ambitious but lack exposure, they don't seem to do a good job showing where the money's going, and a lot of the ideas just aren't very interesting.
If I'm reluctant to spend money on a professional production that doesn't seem up to snuff, I'd be doubly so for something being done by amateurs.
If I'm reluctant to spend money on a professional production that doesn't seem up to snuff, I'd be doubly so for something being done by amateurs.
I'm not concerned that they're amateurs so much that they don't seem to aspire to be something unique, creative, and fun. They lack a creative and inventive spirit that could make even the most amateur production fun to watch.
Their story and premise doesn't even pretend to be something new and worthwhile, so it really just comes across as Trekkies with a camera and a green screen wanting to have fun. (And that's totally okay!) But to do what they seem to be doing, they really don't need $20k to pull it off.
Like I said, there's nothing wrong with a production like this, but to accomplish anything, I think they need to either:
A. Tell a really inventive story (and let us know that it's worthwhile and unique!)
B. Not ask for $20k.
Their story and premise doesn't even pretend to be something new and worthwhile, so it really just comes across as Trekkies with a camera and a green screen wanting to have fun. (And that's totally okay!) But to do what they seem to be doing, they really don't need $20k to pull it off.
Like I said, there's nothing wrong with a production like this, but to accomplish anything, I think they need to either:
A. Tell a really inventive story (and let us know that it's worthwhile and unique!)
B. Not ask for $20k.
FYI, the mods don't like us posting links to crowdfunding campaigns. You can mention them, but you shouldn't link directly to them.
While I'm a big supporter of people making films, I think if you're going to ask for money you'd better know what you're doing.
The pitch video is pretty terrible. The audio is so awful that it's hard to understand. The greenscreen is badly done as well. The whole thing fails to demonstrate even basic filmmaking proficiency. As such, it's not going to convince people to invest hard-earned dollars.
Also...seriously? $22K? I could rent a pro insert stage in San Francisco with a cyc, greenscreen and full grip services for two solid weeks for that amount of money. Unless they're paying the crew and/or buying camera and lighting gear that amount seems rather astronomical for something with no practical sets.
While I'm a big supporter of people making films, I think if you're going to ask for money you'd better know what you're doing.
The pitch video is pretty terrible. The audio is so awful that it's hard to understand. The greenscreen is badly done as well. The whole thing fails to demonstrate even basic filmmaking proficiency. As such, it's not going to convince people to invest hard-earned dollars.
Also...seriously? $22K? I could rent a pro insert stage in San Francisco with a cyc, greenscreen and full grip services for two solid weeks for that amount of money. Unless they're paying the crew and/or buying camera and lighting gear that amount seems rather astronomical for something with no practical sets.
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We had a very successful fundraiser on Indiegogo in November for "Yorktown: A Time to Heal". Our goal was $2000, and we ended up raising $2768. We even had Toronto Film Scene Magazine do an article on us, calling us the crowdfunding project of the week.
I think the reason that alot of these fundraisers never meet their desired goal is because they don't keep fans informed enough to really care about the project. For Yorktown, we posted new photos and videos every week to keep people informed and excited about what we are working on. It made a big difference.
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I've said it before, there seems to be an ongoing trend to fundraise everythink startrekkie... do people think, it's ok to milk the cow as fast as possible?
Where's the pure passion of creation?
Sure, some production teams have successfully fundraised their projects - but the bar set is absolutely high.
With everyone thinking, they should just jump on the train - there will surely be some tiredness with the people and their pockets full of money. Why pay for a fan film, when not even 9.99$ or 9.99$ would be spent for a professional movie like, say, Star Trek Into Darkness....
Where's the pure passion of creation?
Sure, some production teams have successfully fundraised their projects - but the bar set is absolutely high.
With everyone thinking, they should just jump on the train - there will surely be some tiredness with the people and their pockets full of money. Why pay for a fan film, when not even 9.99$ or 9.99$ would be spent for a professional movie like, say, Star Trek Into Darkness....
My favorite thing is how the background doesn't pop in until a moment after the two guys appear.
@Maurice - I fully agree, wholeheartedly. And this agreement comes from someone, who has exactly done this - woodwork for our stage productions regarding amateur theatre. So I'm not just acting, but directing AND building as well.
Some folks just wanna go the easy way...
Some folks just wanna go the easy way...
@Kelso - ok, that changes my mind completely! ;-)
My personal feeling is that if you are going to fundraise for a Trek fan film, you should only be asking for the amount you actually will need. With Yorktown, we knew we needed $2000 to film the missing bridge scenes, and we listed everything that the money would be spent on our Indiegogo page. ST: Raven's Indiegogo fundraiser does not list one item that the $22,000 they want will be spent on. People are just being asked to donate blindly to the project. I'm sure some of that money would go to costumes and stuff, but none of that is listed on their campaign page. If you are going to ask fans for money to help fund your project, you need to be able to tell them how that money is going to be spent.
^^^ I agree with this. Also, I don't really see why anyone would want to spend $50 on signed photos of fanfilm producers and actors.
"I don't really see why anyone would want to spend $50 on signed photos of fanfilm producers and actors."
They will, but only if they look like Michele Specht and they're rolling around in sheets.
They will, but only if they look like Michele Specht and they're rolling around in sheets.
She's very pretty, and I like her in Continues. But I still wouldn't pay $50 for a signed picture. Your mileage may vary of course. 
Chuckled at that.
There have been enough successful fundraisers to show exactly how to do it and enough bad ones to show what not to do. There's really no reason for anyone to mount a sloppy and ill-conceived campaign.
I had totally forgotten about this production until tonight. They have so far released three vignettes. There kind of ok as long as you remember that it’s a very low budget fan production.
Look out for the Starfleet officer reading his lines of a Star Trek I-pad. If you look carefully you can see the script resting on the pad!
I know it’s not great but for some reason I want to see more!
Look out for the Starfleet officer reading his lines of a Star Trek I-pad. If you look carefully you can see the script resting on the pad!
I know it’s not great but for some reason I want to see more!
