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Spoilers Star Trek: Prodigy General Discussion Thread
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I’ve been wrong before. And if liking PRO makes me wrong, then I don’t want to be right!
I would think that the writers and producers of Prodigy were applying the same reasoning as Sesame Street. Did I, at preschool age, get the meta joke behind a Gone with the Wind segment that had the Muppets actually being blown about by the wind? Did I get the parody of The Beetles singing Letter B? Did I know why Cookie Monster was suddenly called Alistair Cookie when he hosted Monsterpiece Theatre? I did not, but my mom, who turned on the TV and knew what channel PBS was on and often was in the room with me, she got those jokes and it made watching Sesame Street with me much more palatable.
The kids from the Tars Lamora prison colony had to learn about Starfleet from someone. It would not be very engaging to have them just watching training videos. A holographic guide is much more dynamic and interesting. Did it have to be Janeway? Of course not, but it certainly could be Janeway and since Kate Mulgrew was enthusiastic to return to the role and one of the primary stated goals was to get new, young fans invested in the world of Star Trek, it makes sense to use someone they can get to know more completely when they are older and get into other Trek shows. The same with the tie-ins to other, not kid-friendly, shows. The hope is, someday, these newly-minted fans will be 30+ themselves and they will be watching Paramount (or whoever’s) back catalogue and feel a sense of familiarity when the plot points touched on in their first foray into Trek connect to whatever they are currently watching.
The kids from the Tars Lamora prison colony had to learn about Starfleet from someone. It would not be very engaging to have them just watching training videos. A holographic guide is much more dynamic and interesting. Did it have to be Janeway? Of course not, but it certainly could be Janeway and since Kate Mulgrew was enthusiastic to return to the role and one of the primary stated goals was to get new, young fans invested in the world of Star Trek, it makes sense to use someone they can get to know more completely when they are older and get into other Trek shows. The same with the tie-ins to other, not kid-friendly, shows. The hope is, someday, these newly-minted fans will be 30+ themselves and they will be watching Paramount (or whoever’s) back catalogue and feel a sense of familiarity when the plot points touched on in their first foray into Trek connect to whatever they are currently watching.
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I doubt they're related.
My only concern with PRO now being on Netflix, is that they're notorious for NOT releasing their shows on DVD/BRD. I have S1-parts 1 & 2 safely stowed, but I don't know if we'll ever see S2 discs. At this point, I guess I should just be happy they're showing them at all...
This isn’t a Netflix show though, they just have the streaming rights.
When Discovery was Netflix only it still got a home release.
^^^ Very good point. Thank you for making me feel better today. 
I am not a huge fan of time travel shennanigans, but I think the season was a strong one.
I hope it is not the end, but if it is, it landed in a good spot and the ride was well worth taking.
I hope it is not the end, but if it is, it landed in a good spot and the ride was well worth taking.
The existence of Bribble explains my Vulcan Tribble. I never delved into exactly how Kirk and Spock created him, just that they did.
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Season two definitely made Chakotay a much more interesting character. Beltran was more lifelike in animation than he ever was in live action.
Hell of a finale. One of the best in Trek history, IMO.
TrekMovie.com: Interview: ‘Prodigy’ Showrunners On Giving Wesley Crusher Closure And Sitting At Star Trek’s “Adult Table”
Prodigy was inside Secret Hideout/Paramount regarded as the show that "owned Voyager".
So Prodigy is a Voyager sequel first and foremost?
As I said:
Interesting priorities:
What happened to "reach younger kids" or "explain the franchise to total newcomers"?
Why are they talking more about how to connect Prodigy to Voyager and an adult show like Picard than about how to make a Star Trek show for young children?
Why are they even talking about correcting mistakes from a 30 year old show?
Prodigy was inside Secret Hideout/Paramount regarded as the show that "owned Voyager".
So Prodigy is a Voyager sequel first and foremost?
As I said:
Interesting priorities:
What happened to "reach younger kids" or "explain the franchise to total newcomers"?
Why are they talking more about how to connect Prodigy to Voyager and an adult show like Picard than about how to make a Star Trek show for young children?
Why are they even talking about correcting mistakes from a 30 year old show?
So what? What's your point?
That is literally the opposite of what he said in the sentence you quoted.
That was season 1. Now they're easing them in a little deeper. Learning advances over time. That's what it's for.
They were specifically asked a question about integrating the show with the wider continuity, therefore they answered the question they were asked. I presume you read the entire interview you linked to and screencapped, so you should already know that they answered questions about other topics, including how to introduce novice viewers to things like Vulcans, Klingons, and tribbles.
This show is meant to appeal to kids.
Also this show:
(references a nearly 40 year old movie)
Kevin Hageman: We were inspired by seeing a teenage Vulcan, which we thought was really interesting. And on top of that, our kids going on to Voyager, we love this idea that they’re the misfit students. Ma’jel is a part of Nova Squadron, which is like Top Gun. She’s like Iceman to Maverick.
Also this show:
(references a nearly 40 year old movie)
Kevin Hageman: We were inspired by seeing a teenage Vulcan, which we thought was really interesting. And on top of that, our kids going on to Voyager, we love this idea that they’re the misfit students. Ma’jel is a part of Nova Squadron, which is like Top Gun. She’s like Iceman to Maverick.
I love the fact that Ma'jel (cool name they gave her) was actually a direct-line descendant to T'Pau. I don't recall if it was ever mentioned on-screen, though.
I recall a line referencing "The House of T'Pau"
Prodigy is another NuTrek show that relied on nostalgia-bait/memberberries and failed at it's core stated purpose: Get new people into Star Trek.
The first goal was to make a Voyager sequel.
The second goal was to make a show that stands on its own ("also is not just a Voyager sequel").
You mean season 1, the season full of legacy characters?
Season 1, the Janeway and Chakotay mystery box season? The season with Jellico (1992) and Okona (1988)?
The season with these characters?
Introducing novice viewers was not their priority.
They just parenthetically talked about haphazardly throwing Vulcans, Klingons, The Mirror Universe and Tribbles into the show, because for them that is was Star Trek is.
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Again, so what? Goals change, as do plans to achieve said-goals. This is how "real life" actually works.
And Vulcans, Klingons, the MU and Tribbles in a Star Trek show?? THE HORROR!!!
PRO was still a kick-ass show, which heavily redeemed VOY in many ways; a feat I honestly didn't think possible, as I truly disliked that series.
Would love to see a season 3 but, again, "real life" implies that will likely never happen under the current circumstances and we should be glad that we ever even got to see S2.
I wish all the talented folks involved with PRO all the best and hope they all land on their feet in new productions.
And Vulcans, Klingons, the MU and Tribbles in a Star Trek show?? THE HORROR!!!
PRO was still a kick-ass show, which heavily redeemed VOY in many ways; a feat I honestly didn't think possible, as I truly disliked that series.
Would love to see a season 3 but, again, "real life" implies that will likely never happen under the current circumstances and we should be glad that we ever even got to see S2.
I wish all the talented folks involved with PRO all the best and hope they all land on their feet in new productions.
So...taking the most recognizable and iconic aspects of Star Trek and putting them in to a Star Trek show as an introduction for people less familiar to the lore is a bad thing?
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