would make for boring seaesons 2 and 3
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Do not ask for whom the bell tolls.
... nor cross The Bridge Over the River Kwai looking for A Night to Remember in The Naked Jungle.
You'll only find The High and the Mighty, Twelve Angry Men relaxing On the Beach reading War & Peace.
Who's British and owns a pub.
Three more episodes left and I don't think they're going to stick the landing this season. So far, I'm not sure what this show is trying to say or explore. I'm not sure the show's team knows either. There's no clear theme being explored here.
And the show thus far is far from the character study of Picard we were promised. I've enjoyed bits of the show, disliked other bits, but I'm beginning to move into disappointment.
And the show thus far is far from the character study of Picard we were promised. I've enjoyed bits of the show, disliked other bits, but I'm beginning to move into disappointment.
I hope the last three episodes move at such a speed that it risks turning each into a salamander. We really need to wrap up this part of the story arc and put the exposition on hold for a little while.
I'd say that there are some clear themes here. There's the persistent theme of trauma, how we live with its memory, and how we heal from its touch. Picard, Deanna, Will, Kestra, Raffi, Agnes, Soji, Hugh, and Seven are the most obvious cases of people exploring this theme. Picard, Raffi, and Seven deal with trauma by retreating into negative parts of themselves, and we're only just beginning to see Picard pulling himself out of that. Deanna, Will, Kestra, and Hugh have tackled trauma head on, living in the places where they lost and suffered. Agnes's trauma is new, and she's willing to risk her life to excise it; we'll see what happens next in her story, as we will with Seven. However, the common thread for Picard and Soji, for Deanna, Will, and Kestra; and for Raffi is that the salve for trauma is in other people, and particularly in exercising love and care for them.
(Edit: Somehow, I omitted the obvious trauma: how the Romulans live with the aftermath of their entire lives being destroyed. That, too.)
I'd say that's a pretty clear theme: trauma and how we heal from it together. By extension, it's also a show about dealing with our growing awareness of vulnerability. And we're exploring these ideas across a gamut of issues: aging, illness, loss of self, loss of loved ones, drug abuse, PTSD, a variety of violations of self.
As for being a character study of Picard, how is it not a character study of Picard? The show has focused on peeling back layers of a proud, righteous, learned, fiercely honorable man to reflect on the implicit arrogance, blinkered self-importance, emotional distance, and unintended insensitivities that have always been suggested in his character but rarely discussed openly. More broadly, the show is performing the same critique of the Federation that it is of Picard himself; really, this show is complicating the broader concepts of Star Trek in general.
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The next ep. preview sure looked like stuff hitting the fan.
Good. It's time to deliver on the endgame of this season.
Picard stands alone against the Zaht Vash, then a wormhole opens up. Riker saying “on your left”, and in comes the enterprise. Then worf arrives on the defiant. Crusher on the Pasteur, Geordi and Barclay on the challenger, chuckles and Paris on voyager, Martok on the Rotaran, and then finally The Sisko emerges on DS9.
Picard then asks “is that it?”
Picard then asks “is that it?”
I expect some of the questions and tensions will carry over into the next season. The civil rights story--recognition for synthetic life--as well as the general xenophobia that has affected the Federation will probably take longer than one season to resolve naturally. Picard has grown a little more, but I suspect that he will need to confront his disease more directly.
A good way to kill the fanbase.
fanwank + homage = heart attack. EMTs will wonder "Why are they smiling.?"
That's when Captain Sulu emerges
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EAS Observations up for "Stardust City Rag"
http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/observations/pic_stardustcityrag.htm
There are a lot of little details in that opening scene with Icheb (they don't include most of the graphical stuff in the images, but there is still some in there)
Whoever directed/designed the scene knew their voyager lore.
http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/observations/pic_stardustcityrag.htm
There are a lot of little details in that opening scene with Icheb (they don't include most of the graphical stuff in the images, but there is still some in there)
Whoever directed/designed the scene knew their voyager lore.
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I really like these EAS observations and it shows how PIC quite perfectly fits into the original canon and prime timeline.
I think they do know and the story isn't going to be tied up neatly by the end of the season. I think they are going for a more long form type of storytelling that we haven't seen on trek before. It's going to be a novel in television form and the story that started this season will play out across all three. I doubt we're going to get Picard and Soji off on some wacky adventure to a diplomatic conference next season.
Also there are plenty of themes. Aging, regret, finding purpose, failing and returning from failure, identity, and what constitutes a life and reality are all themes that have been present across the last 7 episodes.
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