I'm only at the beginning of the second season of 12 Monkeys as of this typing. I was going to cram all four seasons in between now and Wednesday when Picard Season 3 comes out on my Blu-Ray with all its Extra Features, but that's pretty much impossible. But luckily, as the song goes, tiiiimmmmeeee is on my side.... A song that shows up at the beginning of both series' second seasons! I'll be spending the week watching this series instead of three more days.
I'm putting up a Spoiler Warning in the thread title in case anyone else wants to start watching 12 Monkeys as well. As for me, I know Spoilers are part of the game.
These are the comparisons I noticed between Picard and 12 Monkeys, so far. Bear in mind this only covers the first season.
Thumbnail Description: It's about a time-traveller from 2043 going back to Present Day to stop a pandemic from wiping out Humanity. This series aired from 2015 to 2018, so they had no idea what was right around the corner!
First the characters:
Like I said before, in the General Discussion Tread, James Cole is like Jack Crusher. We're introduced to him as this hard-edged character who's lived a hard life and has a mysterious background when we first see him. Turns out he's the time-traveler and the main character.
Jose Ramse is Cole's best friend. He had a romantic relationship with a woman, Elena, they eventually broke up, and then Ramse finds out they have a five-year-old son. Elena kept the boy away from Ramse because she didn't want him constantly in danger. Just like Beverly Crusher not telling Picard about Jack Crusher and not wanting her son to be in danger.
Katarina Jones is like Kathryn Janeway, and they even look a little similar. Even though Janeway doesn't appear in Picard, she's referenced enough, so I'm counting it. Katarina not only has a science background, like Janeway, but she also invented the time-machine that James uses to go back in time. Katrina is forced to make some decisions in order to succeed in her mission of changing the timeline so the pandemic never wipes out most of Humanity. Janeway had to make some tough choices in "Scorpion" in order to fight Species 8472 and survive traveling through Borg Space. Janeway later had to make some very tough choices in "Equinox" in order to stop Ransom. Then, finally, Admiral Janeway, from the early-25th Century (roughly the same time as Picard!) goes back in time to help Captain Janeway stop the Borg in "Endgame" to prevent a terrible future from happening where Seven dies, Chakotay dies, and Tuvok is mentally unstable. She's willing to do whatever it takes to succeed. Similarly, Katarina Jones is willing to do whatever it takes to succeed in her mission of changing time and refuses to give up even as everyone around her does.
Which brings us to what's happening with time. Every time James Cole is sent back in time to change things, he finds out everything is still the same. There's a Mystery Box to figure out why things aren't changing. I have more, but I'll stop here for now. I've got the ball rolling!
People who are more familiar with 12 Monkeys than I am, since I'm still taking it all in, feel free to jump in at any point.
I'm putting up a Spoiler Warning in the thread title in case anyone else wants to start watching 12 Monkeys as well. As for me, I know Spoilers are part of the game.
These are the comparisons I noticed between Picard and 12 Monkeys, so far. Bear in mind this only covers the first season.
Thumbnail Description: It's about a time-traveller from 2043 going back to Present Day to stop a pandemic from wiping out Humanity. This series aired from 2015 to 2018, so they had no idea what was right around the corner!
First the characters:
Like I said before, in the General Discussion Tread, James Cole is like Jack Crusher. We're introduced to him as this hard-edged character who's lived a hard life and has a mysterious background when we first see him. Turns out he's the time-traveler and the main character.
Jose Ramse is Cole's best friend. He had a romantic relationship with a woman, Elena, they eventually broke up, and then Ramse finds out they have a five-year-old son. Elena kept the boy away from Ramse because she didn't want him constantly in danger. Just like Beverly Crusher not telling Picard about Jack Crusher and not wanting her son to be in danger.
Katarina Jones is like Kathryn Janeway, and they even look a little similar. Even though Janeway doesn't appear in Picard, she's referenced enough, so I'm counting it. Katarina not only has a science background, like Janeway, but she also invented the time-machine that James uses to go back in time. Katrina is forced to make some decisions in order to succeed in her mission of changing the timeline so the pandemic never wipes out most of Humanity. Janeway had to make some tough choices in "Scorpion" in order to fight Species 8472 and survive traveling through Borg Space. Janeway later had to make some very tough choices in "Equinox" in order to stop Ransom. Then, finally, Admiral Janeway, from the early-25th Century (roughly the same time as Picard!) goes back in time to help Captain Janeway stop the Borg in "Endgame" to prevent a terrible future from happening where Seven dies, Chakotay dies, and Tuvok is mentally unstable. She's willing to do whatever it takes to succeed. Similarly, Katarina Jones is willing to do whatever it takes to succeed in her mission of changing time and refuses to give up even as everyone around her does.
Which brings us to what's happening with time. Every time James Cole is sent back in time to change things, he finds out everything is still the same. There's a Mystery Box to figure out why things aren't changing. I have more, but I'll stop here for now. I've got the ball rolling!
People who are more familiar with 12 Monkeys than I am, since I'm still taking it all in, feel free to jump in at any point.
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