If it's 2401 and not 2411 then why does Raffi's granddaughter look like a 10-year-old child and not like a 12-24-month-old toddler?
Raffi's daughter-in-law was pregnant in 2399.
2399:
2401: How?
The kid does not look 10.
Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 3x02 - "Disengage"
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The kid does not look 10.
I mean, maybe? It will depend greatly on how it plays out.
Thus far I think Shaw has his reasons by his behaviors. So, until I know more I'm not willing to say one way or the other.
Unless they have fairly generic launchers, and just different ammo types to swap out.
But, yeah, it's heavily armed. Or, she's an arm's merchant.
The poster I was responding to was upset that Shaw did not want to rescue Beverly's son, but was willing to do it for Picard's.
I was gently trying to point out the Titan had no idea she was on the ship, or that Jack was her son. The knew a woman was injured, but not necessarily Beverly Crusher.
Per the USA Today article, Jack has the accent because he was educated in London, which meant he was just a country away from Picard.Enjoyed this episode. I think Beverly figured out how to genetically enhance people to have British accents without exposure to them, and that's why she stayed in hiding.
My bad.
Except they did know, because Shaw brings up that Jack may be faking being Crusher's son I believe, and never bothers to check via a DNA tricorder scan.
I liked it better than last week's, actually, and it kept playing like another hour of a 10-part movie. Engaging, tense, exciting, albeit it felt like a refreshed spin on both the TOS and TNG movies at moments.
We've met our (first) villain now. I found Vadic really enjoyable, she was refreshingly unhinged, even though the scene where the Titan scanned her ship reminded me of when they did the same with the Scimitar in Nemesis. She is seemingly being set up as the series' version of Khan, complete with villainous gloating through the comms and yet another version of the technology-negating Mutara Nebula, which makes me a bit worried, but it was executed well for now.
Shaw continues to be an intriguing, complex character showcasing a new kind of Starfleet that has learned to play it safe after all the loss caused by the Borg and the Dominion. His strict caution and adherence to regulations and focus on the safety of his crew (as opposed to Picard's generation who have, after a few seasons, always begun to take their crew's complete support in every risky maneuver for granted) makes him a similar contrast to the veterans of the TNG era who were in the same way portrayed themselves as the grown-ups who have lost their spark and learned to play by the rules in contrast to the risk-taking "everything goes" wild west of the TOS era, be it Scotty pitying Geordi for zealously following the rulebook he intentionally wrote to be conservative, or Janeway talking about the lawless days of Kirk's cowboy diplomacy with a sense of wonder. It's kind of a nice symmetry, actually, as the previous generation of our heroes grows into wise veterans who have already seen and experienced many things and learned how and when rules can and must be bent, and so on and so on.
I found it quite interesting that Shaw's disdain towards Seven seemed to come more from her connections to the Rangers than being Borg, although Vadic seemed to be implying the latter too when talking about his psychological profile. He definitely seems to be the unflexible Lawful Neutral type for whom doing good is only an option if you can do it the proper way, even though it was a bit colored at the end when he decided to fight after all when Picard (quite predictably) declared Jack to be his son. Did he actually have a change of heart or did he just accept defeat because he realized that Picard (or the newly arriving Beverly) being personally involved practically guaranteed that he won't be able to hand Jack over and decided to go along with the new, changed circumstances?
And we finally have Worf! WORF! WORF!!!! Complete with Goldsmith's Klingon Theme, because of course. I loved how he knew exactly what Raffi would do, albeit I'm quite worried for the latter. She seems intent on doing good in the face of a Starfleet that won't listen, but the lengths she is going to do so are once again extremely self-destructive, and worse yet, she seems to be internally framing them as a self-sacrifice for the greater good... she seems to be punishing herself for her failures and is seemingly convinced that she needs to suffer for others to be saved. Nothing good can come out of that.
And as a miscellaneous observation at the end... is it weird to feel overwhelming gender envy towards a random Andorian extra with a glorious mane of curly hair in the background of a bar scene
? Asking for a friend, obviously.
We've met our (first) villain now. I found Vadic really enjoyable, she was refreshingly unhinged, even though the scene where the Titan scanned her ship reminded me of when they did the same with the Scimitar in Nemesis. She is seemingly being set up as the series' version of Khan, complete with villainous gloating through the comms and yet another version of the technology-negating Mutara Nebula, which makes me a bit worried, but it was executed well for now.
Shaw continues to be an intriguing, complex character showcasing a new kind of Starfleet that has learned to play it safe after all the loss caused by the Borg and the Dominion. His strict caution and adherence to regulations and focus on the safety of his crew (as opposed to Picard's generation who have, after a few seasons, always begun to take their crew's complete support in every risky maneuver for granted) makes him a similar contrast to the veterans of the TNG era who were in the same way portrayed themselves as the grown-ups who have lost their spark and learned to play by the rules in contrast to the risk-taking "everything goes" wild west of the TOS era, be it Scotty pitying Geordi for zealously following the rulebook he intentionally wrote to be conservative, or Janeway talking about the lawless days of Kirk's cowboy diplomacy with a sense of wonder. It's kind of a nice symmetry, actually, as the previous generation of our heroes grows into wise veterans who have already seen and experienced many things and learned how and when rules can and must be bent, and so on and so on.
I found it quite interesting that Shaw's disdain towards Seven seemed to come more from her connections to the Rangers than being Borg, although Vadic seemed to be implying the latter too when talking about his psychological profile. He definitely seems to be the unflexible Lawful Neutral type for whom doing good is only an option if you can do it the proper way, even though it was a bit colored at the end when he decided to fight after all when Picard (quite predictably) declared Jack to be his son. Did he actually have a change of heart or did he just accept defeat because he realized that Picard (or the newly arriving Beverly) being personally involved practically guaranteed that he won't be able to hand Jack over and decided to go along with the new, changed circumstances?
And we finally have Worf! WORF! WORF!!!! Complete with Goldsmith's Klingon Theme, because of course. I loved how he knew exactly what Raffi would do, albeit I'm quite worried for the latter. She seems intent on doing good in the face of a Starfleet that won't listen, but the lengths she is going to do so are once again extremely self-destructive, and worse yet, she seems to be internally framing them as a self-sacrifice for the greater good... she seems to be punishing herself for her failures and is seemingly convinced that she needs to suffer for others to be saved. Nothing good can come out of that.
And as a miscellaneous observation at the end... is it weird to feel overwhelming gender envy towards a random Andorian extra with a glorious mane of curly hair in the background of a bar scene
? Asking for a friend, obviously.If Shaw had one thing going for him, it should've been consistency to be by the book and now that's gone too. What difference does it make if Jack is indeed Picard's son? He's still wanted for the crimes listed. If Jack were a Ferengi unrelated to Picard and Crusher, would Shaw have helped him? The answer is no, and now Shaw's helping someone shady just because he's related to high profile Federation figures.
Shaw's not really by the book at all if that all goes out the window due to famous connections.
Did we watch the same episode? Picard very specifically pulled rank on him. What should've he done? Lodge a formal complaint?
That didn't work last episode when Picard pulled rank and Shaw claimed he had the right to ignore it as Picard's retired.
Unless it changes because Jack is a Federation citizen andis offering protection against a hostile actor, which he wouldn't have known since Jack at the time was some random dude unconnected to the Federation.
We don't know the motivation for Shaw's actions yet. I'm OK waiting and seeing.
Where's Richter from the Federation News Network when you need her?
Jean-Luc Picard hijacks USS Titan on personal mission to rescue love child with former shipmate Dr. Beverly Crusher!
Exclusive: Former Tal Shiar agent, blackmailed into working as Picard's housekeeper, tearfully tells all, now suspects her husband was murdered on Picard's orders so he could sleep with her
Admiral Jellico speaks, says he warned Starfleet Command about Picard and Riker decades ago -- I always knew Picard ran a sloppy ship, but even I didn't know he was having an affair with the doctor.
The View, hosted by Guinan - Panel analyzing likely timeline of Picard's misconduct with Crusher
Jean-Luc Picard hijacks USS Titan on personal mission to rescue love child with former shipmate Dr. Beverly Crusher!
Exclusive: Former Tal Shiar agent, blackmailed into working as Picard's housekeeper, tearfully tells all, now suspects her husband was murdered on Picard's orders so he could sleep with her
Admiral Jellico speaks, says he warned Starfleet Command about Picard and Riker decades ago -- I always knew Picard ran a sloppy ship, but even I didn't know he was having an affair with the doctor.
The View, hosted by Guinan - Panel analyzing likely timeline of Picard's misconduct with Crusher
He's going by the book, but he's also trying to work out why the hell Picard hijacked his ship and put them all in danger.
I don't think he had any intention of simply handing over Jack to a bounty hunter, because as Picard pointed out, Starfleet don't generally do that kind of thing. I don't think he's protecting Jack because of the Picard connection, but because it's the right thing to do. But now he also knows why Picard came all the way out here.
Shaw put more pressure on Picard to show his hand under the threat of handing over Jack, but at the same time he was preparing with his bridge crew to escape into the nebula.
Last week's episode was mostly carried along thanks to the Picard/Riker scenes and the dinner scene with Shaw, but this week's worked on most every level throughout. I loved that the big reveal for Jack Crusher's lineage was handled with a beautifully wordless moment between Beverly and Picard - that is what is we need more of, those moments where we can simply watch the actors emote wordlessly, sharing a moment of almost telepathic understanding.
Covering the attack.
^^^
FTFY
(I mean yes, in the end Picard went to GET Kirk in Generations; but only after he tried to 'Kirk' Soran himself.
)
To answer with a clear head instead of snapping like I did before, Shaw did flat-out tell Vadic that Starfleet does not negotiate with bounty hunters, and he probably wouldn't if he weren't outgunned. His decision to either hand Jack over or protect him until he can be turned over to the proper authorities would not come from any kind of rulebook. Especially since Vadic attacked and damaged the Titan as a warning. The situation was hostile and he was acting under duress, trying to find the safest way out. Whether he's by-the-book or not does not really matter when you get in a tense and rapidly changing situation where proper rules of engagement do not apply.
I thought about it. I wonder if Picard still remembers Kirk's advice about not taking promotion.^^^
FTFY
(I mean yes, in the end Picard went to GET Kirk in Generations; but only after he tried to 'Kirk' Soran himself.
Hopefully that means the blu-rays will be, at least, consistent.
Yet he did it anyway.
