Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 3x02 - "Disengage"
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"I told you--do not engage."
YAY!!! Worf to the rescue!!!
The day gets better and better!
I liked this slightly less than the first one, but I appreciated that the nostalgia and references were toned down compared to that episode. Still not sold on the idea that this is the greatest Trek ever or whatever it is some people have been hyping up, but still good nonetheless.
The scenes between Beverly and Picard on the bridge were the highlight for me. I'm still not completely sold on the son, mainly just because I know he's only supposed to be early 20s but it's clear he's early 30s. That's a minor quibble though.
I'm mostly now very curious about when the other TNG cast show up since some of the reviews do say we see all of them in the first 6 episodes and that they seem to all be back together by the 6th. I can't see any of them showing up in the next one since that seems to be them escaping Vadic still.
The scenes between Beverly and Picard on the bridge were the highlight for me. I'm still not completely sold on the son, mainly just because I know he's only supposed to be early 20s but it's clear he's early 30s. That's a minor quibble though.
I'm mostly now very curious about when the other TNG cast show up since some of the reviews do say we see all of them in the first 6 episodes and that they seem to all be back together by the 6th. I can't see any of them showing up in the next one since that seems to be them escaping Vadic still.
Give Matalas another Trek series to run. This is good stuff.
Riker being Riker. When he walked - or swaggered - into sickbay and barked out his question, that’s the Riker we all know from TNG.
Barton had an excellent musical score as well. After relying on past motifs in episode one, this episode showed he can create compelling cues on his own accord. The cue when Raffi was about to take that drug was great, the cue when Picard locked down the ship was equally good.
Say what you want about Shaw, but he follows the chain of command. Love the little tap on the shoulder Picard gives him.
Riker being Riker. When he walked - or swaggered - into sickbay and barked out his question, that’s the Riker we all know from TNG.
Barton had an excellent musical score as well. After relying on past motifs in episode one, this episode showed he can create compelling cues on his own accord. The cue when Raffi was about to take that drug was great, the cue when Picard locked down the ship was equally good.
Say what you want about Shaw, but he follows the chain of command. Love the little tap on the shoulder Picard gives him.
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Stitching certainly looks the same...
Calvary has arrived.
It just occurred to me that there's yet ANOTHER Wrath of Khan scenario we all missed (and maybe this was even unintentional from the showrunners) but Shaw's basically going through a blow by blow actual Kobayashi Maru. The Kobayashi Ma--I mean, shuttle Saavik is in non-Federation space in distress, the captain can either venture out of Federation space and try to rescue them and get blown up by Ms. Evil McEvil's spiky starship of death that make the Klingon ships in the Kobayashi Maru scenario look like garbage scows in comparison, or not venture out of Fed space and let the crew of the Koba--I mean, 2 Starfleet legends die.
I'm surprised no one made a jab asking what Shaw did during his Kobayashi Maru test and to just follow whatever he did then.
I'm surprised no one made a jab asking what Shaw did during his Kobayashi Maru test and to just follow whatever he did then.
8/10 It was incredibly...fine.
Of all the Trek productions that have tried to recreate The Wrath of Khan, this one appears to be the The Wrath of Khanniest. And that might be a little bit of a problem.
I'm a little bit disappointed with the Jack Crusher reveal. I feel like there's been an effort to "Kirkify" Picard since season 1 and this revelation doesn't help. They should be two different characters, but this makes it seem like Picard is destined to live nearly the same life as Kirk, unknown son and all.
Amanda Plummer gives a fine performance as Vadic, but this character doesn't feel all that different from Khan or other Khan-like villains from Trek. But it's only her first appearance, so here's hoping there's some more depth.
Raffi's family drama doesn't seem to be going anywhere, and her a-hole ex-husband gave her a stupid false choice. Of course she was going to look for Sneed, countless lives are at risk due to the quantum tunneling weapon.
Shaw was okay with handing over Crusher to protect his crew, but him being Picard's son suddenly changed things. Why? Also why was Seven still on the bridge giving orders if she disobeyed orders herself? Shaw just comes across as a milksop. He only does the "right thing" because the script says so, there's nothing organic about his change of heart.
The Shrike is way too overarmed for such a gangly looking ship. I imagine only few sections of the ship are actually inhabitable.
Ultimately, it's the actors performances that elevate the material, because there's really not much that went on. I like the moment between Picard and Riker on the turbolift, and Dr. Crusher's appearance.
This and episode 1 should have been shown together, because only now has the story really started.
Edit: It was nice seeing Worf again, but I would have liked more scenes with him. Nice finishers though.
Of all the Trek productions that have tried to recreate The Wrath of Khan, this one appears to be the The Wrath of Khanniest. And that might be a little bit of a problem.
I'm a little bit disappointed with the Jack Crusher reveal. I feel like there's been an effort to "Kirkify" Picard since season 1 and this revelation doesn't help. They should be two different characters, but this makes it seem like Picard is destined to live nearly the same life as Kirk, unknown son and all.
Amanda Plummer gives a fine performance as Vadic, but this character doesn't feel all that different from Khan or other Khan-like villains from Trek. But it's only her first appearance, so here's hoping there's some more depth.
Raffi's family drama doesn't seem to be going anywhere, and her a-hole ex-husband gave her a stupid false choice. Of course she was going to look for Sneed, countless lives are at risk due to the quantum tunneling weapon.
Shaw was okay with handing over Crusher to protect his crew, but him being Picard's son suddenly changed things. Why? Also why was Seven still on the bridge giving orders if she disobeyed orders herself? Shaw just comes across as a milksop. He only does the "right thing" because the script says so, there's nothing organic about his change of heart.
The Shrike is way too overarmed for such a gangly looking ship. I imagine only few sections of the ship are actually inhabitable.
Ultimately, it's the actors performances that elevate the material, because there's really not much that went on. I like the moment between Picard and Riker on the turbolift, and Dr. Crusher's appearance.
This and episode 1 should have been shown together, because only now has the story really started.
Edit: It was nice seeing Worf again, but I would have liked more scenes with him. Nice finishers though.
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Anyone surprised they played what has been, once in the 60s and often since new Trek started, the Romulan leitmotif twice while showing Vadic?
And the cue for her ship is similar to the one of the Narada…mmmh!
And the cue for her ship is similar to the one of the Narada…mmmh!
To be fair, this has been going on since First Contact.
That we know of. His values seem driven by a sense of duty and order, which may extend to family.
How so?
I like Raffi, but I was bitterly disappointed to hear Elnor wasn't going to be in this season. Ever since we got the news that the TNG crew was properly coming back, I'd really wanted Elnor and Worf to get some screentime together - debating the merits of their respective weapons, fighting back to back, "I never thought I'd die fighting side by side with an elf", and all that good stuff. There's just so much comedic and character potential in teaming up an emotionally-open Romulan raised in a splinter sub-culture with a stoic Klingon who's spent so much of his life trying to embody every single Klingon cultural ideal.
*sigh*
Maybe in the spinoff.
It just occurred to me that Vadic probably has the most overpowered bounty hunting ship in sci-fi. Even Din Djarin, Cad Bane, the Fetts, and Samus Aran's starships have nothing on the Shrike.
Good. Those chumps don't need their ridiculous space ships.It just occurred to me that Vadic probably has the most overpowered bounty hunting ship in sci-fi. Even Din Djarin, Cad Bane, the Fetts, and Samus Aran's starships have nothing on the Shrike.
And there was nothing about the Razor Crest that was overpowered. It was the equivalent of a refurbished truck.
Perhaps, but it's a bit too on the nose here with Jack Crusher.
Maybe, but I'm going only on what I've seen onscreen.
I mean it's equipped with all these projectile based weapons, whose projectiles take up space and number in the triple digits, in addition to the other weaponry which I assume would also take up space. Assuming most of the weapons are mounted in the "arms" (aside from the "wave projector"), that leaves only the middle of the ship to fit the crew, the torpedoes, the bridge, presumably sleeping quarters and other rooms for the crew, and maybe a cargo bay and/or shuttlebay.
Most of those ships weren't designed (as far as I can tell from visuals and background lore) to be "pocket battleships" like the Shrike. The Shrike seems like what Sisko imagined the Defiant to be vs. what it actually was.It just occurred to me that Vadic probably has the most overpowered bounty hunting ship in sci-fi. Even Din Djarin, Cad Bane, the Fetts, and Samus Aran's starships have nothing on the Shrike.
Well....they could easily jump to another scene taking place somewhere else and introduce Geordi for example similar to how so far they've been jumping back and forth from the ships to Raffi.
The Drookmani also use tractor beams this way in "Terminal Provocations".
The cookies would explode.
I don't know when they know Beverly is the one who is injured. Certainly not before they beam them back.
Beverly's beamed immediately to sickbay from her ship, as she shows up as an injured person on sensors. The Titan crew probably didn't know who she was at that moment. Riker's the one who revives her and brings her to the bridge.
