meh, I don’t agree.
Icheb’s death was surely sad, maybe too graphical, but it gave 7 motivation. What was the point of killing Hugh?
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Icheb’s death was surely sad, maybe too graphical, but it gave 7 motivation. What was the point of killing Hugh?
I mostly hated Hugh's death because it was so perfunctory. It felt very much like, "We have nothing for him to do from this point on (let alone before) so time to take him off the board." He also died in the way that I hate so much; almost immediately from a neck wound despite barely any blood leaving his body.
Sometimes people get killed by evil people. It didn't have to mean anything.
Exactly.
in real life? Sure. Dramatically nothing should happen without a reason.
I felt a bit like reading a book I once read, where the protagonist, who was investigating a crime, is suddenly killed in a car accident. Sure, it happens, but WFT?!
Extremely likely, and either lobbied hard from either Colonel Kira (or Vedek if Bher and co's own version is canon). We know Shax is allowed to wear his earring in the 2380s when Bajor still isn't a member, so might be a more ship by ship basis of formality. (Jellico allowed Worf to wear his sash, for example)
Apparently the first Picard Novel states Bajor did join the Federation in 2393, so is a relatively new member and might have included the right to wear family earrings during its ascension talks with whoever was First Minister (with advice from the Kai), citing examples of officers who had been allowed to practice their rights versus those who were denied it.
It's almost like a reverse chekov's gun. Some stuff comes out of nowhere because "shocking the audience" seemed to be the current writers trope when the first scrips for Picard were drafted.
Hugh was nowhere near being the protagonist though so that doesn't work. Dramatically I thought his death was fine. He got killed by the bad guy that's what bad guys do.
As much as I hated Icheb I felt there was 1 big issue with the manner of his death and that was the fact he wasn't sedated. It was done for gore value.
Shax has his earrings on his right ear.
Is there a fake Bajoran in play?
Is there a fake Bajoran in play?
No problem with either death even if Hugh’s was a little too easy. Maybe the idea was the blade was poisoned. I don’t know.
As for Icheb, first, wasn’t that great of a character to begin with. So good riddance. Second, it was torture, so no, he’s not going to be sedated. Third, it was a character beat to give Seven a starting point and to see how far she’s fallen since Voyager. And since then, she’s come a long way.
At least during DS9, wasn’t the opposite side (right) an identifier for followers of the Pah Wraiths?
pretty much.
That was not my point at all.
Him dying terribly changed and motivates 7, it does have a huge impact on her character.
yeah, with no real impact on story or characters.
I always thought Riker wouldn't let Ro wear the earring because she was being so insubordinate and unprofessional. She needed to be taken down a peg, as it were. So that's why Riker was being extra difficult with her.
Other Bajorans in Starfleet know their place, they're not rude and obnoxious like Ro, so they get to wear their earrings while she does not.
The scene of Riker and Picard in the bunk quarters was pretty comical. I am wondering though why they had Riker say he "pee" instead of "piss". All the Kurtzman shows seem to be in love with that word. Even Beverly's new son Saud "piss poor". So what's going on here?
^ Regional slang, maybe? Some parts of the US might say 'pee' where others say 'piss'.
Kind of like Pop vs. Soda.
Kind of like Pop vs. Soda.
Tuvok is an asshole too?
Riker wanted to bang Ro.
Was he negging her?
Sure.
Ipso facto Tuvok wanted to ride Chell rough.
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Do these future people actually know how to polish their boots, or are they expected to expend valuable replicator rations to replicate new boots every morning?
HA!
Overflowing, drowning in footwear... Voyagers chief export when then meet a new planet is to sell off a multitude of barely worn shoes.
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^ Tuvok wasn't just dealing with any old Maquis, they were extra-insubordinate and extra-rebellious, and thus needed extra discipline.
Just like Ro.
Just like Ro.
Both are common terms for the same function.
Yup. Death happens and doesn't have meaning. So people don't mourn in the future.
This is not my experience. Having seen a lot of online reactions people really like the characters. I am still seeing people saying they miss them, but not many people would be willing to say they'd rather see the new set of characters in the absence of this reunion.
Also, I'm not sure cosplay is a good measure since these new characters were mostly civilians during their time in Picard.
Here's my thing- I have more than enough adventures with this TNG crew and strangely I can watch them any time (thanks VHS technology!) But I want to see more of these new characters, specially Elnor.
I didn't think it was supposed to be torture. They were just harvesting Borg parts.
