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Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 3x01 - "The Next Generation"
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We get it. You hate Raffi. You don’t have to bring it up with every post you make.
I did kind of miss seeing Rios in the Captain's chair on La Sirena. But to be honest I had just one thought of Jurati the entire episode, when the reference to "The Red Lady" was made and I thought of her running around 2024 Los Angeles in that red dress. That's it, which doesn't say much for her character's legacy.
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You too? Yeah, you don't just forget things like that.
It's okay for the 1st episode of a season, but I would prefer an adventure with Rios, Raffi, 7, Elnor, Laris, Zhaban,... The TNG crew had its closure with "All Good Things", to me, the movies are just a bonus.
Not sure if capt. Shaw is actually an anti-Borg racist or just has (irrational) security concerns like that their remaining implants may cause trouble. The dining scene is funny until the insult, that laugh when Riker tries to persuade him.
I really really hope Picard is NOT the young man's father because I hate those subplots about parental/ daddy issues, and it would make Beverly look like a POS for hiding his existence. Also sucked in TWOK.
You forgot the irony tag.
They invited some clickbait craptuber to watch it? Oh boy...
Not sure if capt. Shaw is actually an anti-Borg racist or just has (irrational) security concerns like that their remaining implants may cause trouble. The dining scene is funny until the insult, that laugh when Riker tries to persuade him.
I really really hope Picard is NOT the young man's father because I hate those subplots about parental/ daddy issues, and it would make Beverly look like a POS for hiding his existence. Also sucked in TWOK.
You forgot the irony tag.
They invited some clickbait craptuber to watch it? Oh boy...
All the hype money can buy.
Although to be fair Kirk knew about David and that Carol had kept him with her during Jim's earlier Starfleet career. He just hadn't seen David in ages so at first he didn't recognize his son. It seems Beverly's kept a complete rug pulled over this secret and from everybody.
I know it's not really a problem unique to Trek, but it has issues with shit closures. When a closure is done well, and it's a big hit, the studio wants to go back to the well and ruin the legacy. Witness TUC being the perfect sendoff to the TOS crew, and then tacking GEN awkwardly onto the end. Or All Good Things being the perfect closure to TNG, then the underwhelming TNG movies following, with NEM in particular being such an awful coda that fans clamored for more until Picard was made.
I do wonder if the arc of the season is basically going to be Jean Luc - now that he's finally in decent emotional shape - helping the rest of his former crew to get to the same point he was at?
In that case, the lack of any identifiable character arc here for Picard (unless Bev's kid is his son) makes sense, as he's supposed to be the sun the rest revolve around.
In that case, the lack of any identifiable character arc here for Picard (unless Bev's kid is his son) makes sense, as he's supposed to be the sun the rest revolve around.
Nah, it's still basically TNG S8. The driving plot is about the TNG characters re-entering Picard's life, and almost every original character from the previous seasons has been ditched.
That seems very creatively arbitrary to me. Like, if you're going to do Picard, use the paratext developed by Picard. Or, if you're going to turn Picard into TNG S8, use the paratext of TNG (which admittedly he did by using the TNG end credits graphics). But just using the paratext of a completely different corner of the Star Trek universe with no plot or thematic connection to this one seems... unmotivated. It makes about as much sense as using the paratext of Deep Space Nine or Lower Decks.
They didn't drop him. He left the series to develop a television adaptation of his Pulitzer Prize-winning novel The Amazing Adventures of Kavalier & Clay. Chabon is one of the greatest American writers of his generation, and the bad reaction so many fans had to his work speaks more to their bad taste than to his talent as a writer.
His season was excellent with one element that didn't quite stick the landing, and his characters were vibrant, three-dimensional, and compelling. They deserved better than to be unceremoniously shoved off the show, and the audience deserved better than to be told that their relationships would be important only for them to be ignored.
Give me a million Raffis over a single Harry Kim or Travis Mayweather or Tom Paris or Malcolm Reed.
Honestly, the only real problem with S1 is that the XB/Hijacked Cube subplot didn't integrate well with the finale of the season. It was his first time as a showrunner, and other than that it stuck the landing. The climax with Picard and Soji is amazing, and the Picard-as-Orpheus coda was heartfelt and moving. "Et in Arcadia Ego, Parts I & II" really spoke to me when I was coping with my grandmother's death and then with my mother's a year and a half later; I adore those episodes and his work.
Jurati is absolutely one of my favorite characters -- this 24th Century nerd who's super accomplished and put together in the office, but pull her out of her comfort zone and she's a neurotic trashfire who's learning how to believe in herself. I really wanted to see her arc develop more than it did in S2, though I did like that she basically brings peace to the Federation-Borg conflict.
I think Cap. Shaw cranked my interest level of the episode like 30%. What a delightful performance.
Amazing how much energy Todd Stashwick gave to this episode. I think they've created a really great foil-to-our-swashbuckling-heroes dynamic, better than Styles and, I think, considerably less blustery than Jellico (go back and watch the Riker-Jellico scenes, they're high-key melodramatic).
Excited to see how he evolves as an antagonist (though potentially not a villain).
Speaking of, I know Amanda Plummer will be chewing the scenery, and probably Daniel Davis as Moriarty, too, so I bet the intensity of Shaw won't seem too out of place. I also think the humor they're giving Picard and Riker will work really well.
The TOS movie vibe has been mentioned, and to me, the Robin Hood and his Merry Men dynamic of those movies was fed by some very good humor and trickery.
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Amazing how much energy Todd Stashwick gave to this episode. I think they've created a really great foil-to-our-swashbuckling-heroes dynamic, better than Styles and, I think, considerably less blustery than Jellico (go back and watch the Riker-Jellico scenes, they're high-key melodramatic).
Excited to see how he evolves as an antagonist (though potentially not a villain).
Speaking of, I know Amanda Plummer will be chewing the scenery, and probably Daniel Davis as Moriarty, too, so I bet the intensity of Shaw won't seem too out of place. I also think the humor they're giving Picard and Riker will work really well.
The TOS movie vibe has been mentioned, and to me, the Robin Hood and his Merry Men dynamic of those movies was fed by some very good humor and trickery.
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- Great to see Seven in a dang Starfleet uniform. Very jazzed (don't tell Shaw!) about her journey this season.
- I recall thinking that, though the music is very on-the-nose, I find that to be the least distracting kind of fan service, so high marks for entertainment, though sort of low on novelty.
- Some good Picard-Riker moments, very similar to the TOS movie Bones-Kirk vibe, though I bit less playful --- this hits on something else I hate to admit: I've found Sir Patrick a bit too gentle throughout Picard. I want a bit of his stiff upper lip and stoic sense of duty. His basso profondo is missed ("Starfleet was founded to seek out new life – well, there it sits!")
- However! This is, quite literary, a different Picard at a different point in his life --- and a (terrific) actor who's considerably older --- So! I'm onboard with this Picard. I have no choice, really!
- I was a bit weirded-out upon the Titan-A reveal a while back --- love Bill Krause's ships, though, so I'll take it. That said, some of the fully-lit shots of the Titan (thank you for lighting the ships!) seemed a little unfinished.
And Seven/Annika thinks he's an asshole. But based on your theory, presumably he's only an asshole to her because he dislikes ex-Borg so much, which explains why he hasn't been drummed out of the fleet entirely, if he's a perfectly reasonable Captain to everyone else.
Well, for all t he hype it came with I found it quite run of te mill, nothing terrible but nothing that exciting either.
I loved seeing Picard and Riker together, also the the musical cues to TNG and TWoK were fun, the Raffi thread is promising. Nice to see the old LCARS on Crusher’s ship too,
I’m undecided about captain Shaw: he really doesn’t like our heroes for some reason, being hostile from the get go. And doesn’t seem to like Seven either…Lost someone at Wolf 359 maybe?
Speaking of 7, she really just sacrificed her career to help Picard before even understanding the gravity of the situation?! Wow.
I don’t really like the new Titan (which apparently was Riker’s second command) and certainly don’t like how dark it is.
I hope more interesting stuff happens next week.
And what’s up with the titles at the end…With the First Contact theme?!
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I loved seeing Picard and Riker together, also the the musical cues to TNG and TWoK were fun, the Raffi thread is promising. Nice to see the old LCARS on Crusher’s ship too,
I’m undecided about captain Shaw: he really doesn’t like our heroes for some reason, being hostile from the get go. And doesn’t seem to like Seven either…Lost someone at Wolf 359 maybe?
Speaking of 7, she really just sacrificed her career to help Picard before even understanding the gravity of the situation?! Wow.
I don’t really like the new Titan (which apparently was Riker’s second command) and certainly don’t like how dark it is.
I hope more interesting stuff happens next week.
And what’s up with the titles at the end…With the First Contact theme?!
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And Annika/Seven might have been forced on him and he accepted her because he had little or no choice in the matter.
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Humans gonna human. There was concern that during the initial test of the atomic bomb, US scientists felt that it was entirely possible that using the bomb might ignite the earth's atmosphere.
They went ahead with the test anyway.
Agree, the writing in general on Star Trek lately feels like it gets tacked on right before filming, so everyone talks in either a remarkably boring, contemporary style or like they're just reading plot beats.
Look who TrekCore spotted in the end credits.
Excellent, I wonder if he knew, as in he was officially hired, or it’s just a nod to his brilliant Twitter posts and work on EAS. Well deserved either way.
