Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 2x10 - "Farewell"

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Picard' started by Commander Richard, May 4, 2022.

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  1. Campe

    Campe Vice Admiral Admiral

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    Well, we already see a Borg child learning with Federation students in Lower Decks learning with the most important officer in Starfleet history, so it’s a good chance the Borgati Collective gets fully integrated into the Federation at some point.
     
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  2. gvn2fly

    gvn2fly Commander Red Shirt

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    The Borg Queen had explained the importance of Renee's mission in a previous episode (2.8 I believe)
     
  3. eschaton

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    I mean how discovering a microbe could be the POD. Guinan explains Teresa's son uses it as an adult to fix the environment, as opposed to the Confederation, which uses Soong's shields to paste over the issue.

    So Earth fixing the environment stopped it from becoming a xenophobic totalitarian nightmare. Butterflies I guess, but it doesn't seem to work thematically.
     
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  4. Ar-Pharazon

    Ar-Pharazon Admiral Premium Member

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    I would have thought 48 minutes wouldn't be enough, but they got the foiling of Soong's plan out of the way early.

    That was the most well done and moving episode of Star Trek (and maybe any TV show) I've ever seen. Definitely had Frakes' "touch".

    "Even gods have favorites"
     
  5. Campe

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    Loved that line. So much history between Q and Picard in just a few words.
     
  6. gvn2fly

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    Well 2.8 didn't mention Teresa's son but in that episode the queen tells Soons that in one reality the microbe renee finds is used to fix the environment. In another timeline where the launch didn't happen Earth turns to Soong to fix the environment - which somehow led to the Confederation.
     
  7. SG-17

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    Wow, so much to unpack.

    Wesley is still a Traveler and the Travelers are the benefactors of the Supervisors.
    The Borg Cooperative is aware of a threat that even they don't fully understand.
    Adam Soong participated in the creation of Khan, whether in the past or the future I'm not sure.
     
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  8. hxclespaulplayer

    hxclespaulplayer Captain Captain

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    So it's now canon that the lifeform from Io reversed climate change, just for ww3 to mess it up in a few years' time?
     
  9. Campe

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    I’ve gotta say, I feel like there’s been a lot of seeds planted for potential spin-offs from Picard so far: Fenris Rangers, the Borgati Cooperative being guardians at the gate, Assignment: Earth with Kore and Wesley, the Khan Project in one way or another.
     
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  10. gvn2fly

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    I thought the Wesley scene really took me out of the episode. It was just so random and Isa's acting wasn't the best during that scene (neither was Wheaton's). If people watching Picard who haven't seen TNG did they just think "what the hell that I watch?" during that scene and have a lot of questions? I watched TNG and I was thinking that during that scene.
     
  11. SG-17

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    Maybe that lifeform is in part why Earth recovered so quickly from a nuclear war?
     
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  12. StewMc

    StewMc Commodore Commodore

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    It was Michael Weaver that directed this episode. But I'd heard it was Frakes somewhere as well. Also heard it was Matalas writing the ep but it was actually Christopher Monfette and Akiva Goldsman...
     
  13. Pubert

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    They basically threw everything and the kitchen sink in. To link the travellers and Gary sevens people together was ridiculous and just didn't fit.
     
  14. FredH

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    I think at this point it can be taken as stated that the various historical discrepancies we now have (including the whopper in Soong’s folder and the possible lack of a 1990s Eugenics Wars) are due to that one time Wesley erred. But I don’t quite get how it works with the Borg now; *that* history seem too recent and all-encompassing to erase, unless we get to Season 3 and discover there never was a Battle of Wolf 359 etc. Which could happen, but I’d be surprised if they actually took that route.
     
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  15. Pubert

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    Maybe Wesley's one joke messed up the tos era which is why we got the Discovery and Burnham.
     
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  16. Lord Garth

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    I was too tired to watch overnight. I started watching this morning, before the plumber showed up, not very far though, so I haven't read most of this thread.

    I love how the recap at the beginning summed up all of Season 2 so far and brought it back into focus. It lends both into the idea that PIC Season 2 could've been tightened up and that it will play better on binge where everything is fresh on your mind and won't be forgotten over the course of several weeks.
     
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  17. brandnewfan

    brandnewfan Commander Red Shirt

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    I’ve posted my thoughts already but I loved this episode.

    They resolved everything and it all fit nicely.

    The season as a whole? It wasn’t good. This episode, however, was pretty great. I gave it a 9.
     
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  18. Ar-Pharazon

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    That's weird. I had seen Frakes listed for episode 10 previously, but you're right, Michael Weaver is in the credits as director, right after the 31 flavors of producers & executive producers :rolleyes:
     
  19. eschaton

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    That's not what she says. Looking at the transcript:

     
  20. Pubert

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    Yeah i know what the end of the season holds now. No reason to binge the whole thing. This whole thing could easily have been done in two hours. We did get one saving grace. Old man Picard didn't kiss laris. Thankfully. I don't think anyone wanted a guy that old kissing someone that young. His time for that type of thing is past.