Yet, 15 episodes in, you're still watching. This is just me, but I don't watch 15 episodes of a show if I think it's trash. But I guess your time to waste is your time to waste.
Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 2x05 - "Fly Me to the Moon"
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On a happier note: I was on the right track last week! I knew there would be a Gary Seven connection of some sort. Except it's Not Laris.
I always wished there was some sort of on-screen follow-up to "Assignment: Earth". Better late than never. Over several decades, by going back in time and referencing the 20th/21st Century often enough, they've unintentionally done a lot of world-building in the Present Day fir Star Trek, so I'm glad the PIC writers are building a story off of what's been there, and actually using it.
I always wished there was some sort of on-screen follow-up to "Assignment: Earth". Better late than never. Over several decades, by going back in time and referencing the 20th/21st Century often enough, they've unintentionally done a lot of world-building in the Present Day fir Star Trek, so I'm glad the PIC writers are building a story off of what's been there, and actually using it.
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Every episode has been ending with me saying "what?! Already?!"
Posits:
Agnes, in the ship's engine room, with the shotgun.
Demerits:
Too short. Dammit.
Ruminations:
So Q is resorting to other means to alter the timeline and on multiple fronts. Extorting Adam Soong who wants to save his daughter, and putting fear and doubt in Renee Picard's head before the Europa mission. Sneaky, sneaky.
If this were a non-Star Trek series about watchers and supervisors and time preservation agents trying to find ways to correct and protect timelines I'd still tune in. I love the concept as long as it's done right, and I think Picard is doing a bang-up job. That it's also Star Trek, and cast with some incredible talent, just makes it chocolate cake all day. I can't wait for the next episode.
I love everyone, they're doing a terrific job, but especially props to both Annie and Alison, who have such great chemistry together.
This one gets a 9/10.
Posits:
Agnes, in the ship's engine room, with the shotgun.
Demerits:
Too short. Dammit.
Ruminations:
So Q is resorting to other means to alter the timeline and on multiple fronts. Extorting Adam Soong who wants to save his daughter, and putting fear and doubt in Renee Picard's head before the Europa mission. Sneaky, sneaky.
If this were a non-Star Trek series about watchers and supervisors and time preservation agents trying to find ways to correct and protect timelines I'd still tune in. I love the concept as long as it's done right, and I think Picard is doing a bang-up job. That it's also Star Trek, and cast with some incredible talent, just makes it chocolate cake all day. I can't wait for the next episode.
I love everyone, they're doing a terrific job, but especially props to both Annie and Alison, who have such great chemistry together.
This one gets a 9/10.
Wil Wheaton mentioned in his RR interview with Annie, that he's see several episodes before the VFX was done and that she acted a lot with her eyes as the Queen, and they were very expressive and added to the scenes.
It's kind of sad they just made them all black in post.
It's kind of sad they just made them all black in post.
They had sleeperships by this point. And supermen did rule a quarter of the world in the 1990s and created nuclear powered spaceships to escape. And Mestral presumably is still alive in 2024, sharing all of his Vulcan knowledge. Not really surprising that their 2024 is more advanced in their timeline.
By the end of the episode, the season started feeling kind of pointless to me and that the writing wasn’t as tight as the first couple of episodes. We’re getting a lot of easter eggs (Rohzenko, Gary Seven, etc), but nothing relating to the characters (Raffi & Elnor), and various plotholes cropping up.
Like, why was it okay to beam out Seven and Raffi in downtown LA, but not Rios in a more isolated area? Why wasn’t stopping the bus with their tricorder not the first option over beaming out, considering how advanced it is, as displayed in the prior episode? Why is it being treated like no one knows key events occuring in 2024 alone when the Bell Riots are supposed to occur less then six months from the events in PIC S2 and it’s known that Europe is going to be going through some instability in this year, real world event like the Olympics and presidential elections notwithstanding? Why is it being glossed over that Seven know of Q and met his son any times she mentions Q?
Hopefully next week’s story picks up.
Considering that WWIII is supposed to star 2 years after the event depicted here, and it was supposedly rooted over a dispute over eugenics, and Adam Soong is into eugenics, is possible.
Enough people living in rural areas that collect old forms of media like vinyl, CDs iPods & DVDs would have entertainment past 1965 safely stored. And Western media is so prolific worldwide that there’s no way its all lost.
I think that they just prefer movies made prior to 1965.
This has been a train wreck I can't look away from, but this episode might have just lost me for good. I've said that before but keep rubbernecking back, especially after the first 2 episodes of S2 which I really liked and was optimistic the writers course corrected from S1. But this episode was bad and as you said, it's a waste of time.
I suddenly want this to be canon. 
This legit made me laugh.
Sorry for being so negative. I'll try to control myself now on. I'm really not a hater, I was just so optimistic after the first two episodes of S2 that I can't hide my disappointment.
Human context of space exploration for 2024:
- Christopher's mission to Saturn was four years prior. Ditto Nomad.
- The Ares programme for Mars is certainly underway, status unclear, given the long lead times to get from proposal to funding to actual hardware roaming between the planets. Ares IV had its mishap eight years later.
- The launch of Charybdis was five years after Ares IV, almost certainly in proposal phase as of 2024.
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Fusion-driven sublight impulse engines were first developed in 2018, so there's that. A major fusion propulsion breakthrough happens just six years before this mission is launched.
I was so convinced the French Cop was going to be assimilated, then it turns out Jurati was low-key assimilated! Then I thought back to Oh mind-melding with her and I thought to myself, "Oh no, not again... " Poor Jurati.
Like that they have the song Fly Me to the Moon. It makes me think of Neon Genesis Evangelion.
Like that they have the song Fly Me to the Moon. It makes me think of Neon Genesis Evangelion.
Dr. Werner (Lea Thompson) says to Soong "Dr. Soong you were running genetic experiments with a privatized military organization, Spearhead Operations, on soldiers. Unmonitored, unregulated illegal experimentation". Could this be related to the Eugenics Wars?
Look at the bright side: she's got a license to kill, again! Rios, watch your back!
The name is Jurati. Agnes Jurati. [Bond theme]Look at the bright side: she's got a license to kill, again! Rios, watch your back!
I noticed that also, but it's just the auto-cleaning hose.
Still, it probably was set like that for the camera.
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Call the number on Q's card, everyone. You get a nice little easter egg.
Steve Shives mentioned that letting the ICE detainees go could have caused a huge amount of messing up the timeline, given they were all headed to Mexico.
