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Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 1x09 - "Et in Arcadia Ego, Part 1"
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If the Tal'Shiar are defeated in a conclusive way it could finally remove their grip on the Romulan people.
I think its going to be reunification with the Romulans possibly joining the Federation in the end.
With the Commodore's ship poised to strike like that it would be great if they fire but their shot bounces off another ships shields that is cloaked right in front of them.
Wouldn't that be an epic way to introduce the F with the ablative generator and transphasic torpedoes, ably assisted by a load of Defiant class ships.
Joking aside I think we could see Starfleet square up against the Tal'Shiar fleet to defend the planet showing the Synths that it doesn't have to end badly, then that dodgy synth goes and calls the big bad in anyway.
The Zhat Vash need a good hiding for the attack on Mars.
Liking the look of the Commodore's ship, hard to judge its size though.
Which brings me to the most important and critical plot point of the whole show.
Where is Laris and Zhaban and would they consider Commodore Oh to be a cheeky fecker.
I think its going to be reunification with the Romulans possibly joining the Federation in the end.
With the Commodore's ship poised to strike like that it would be great if they fire but their shot bounces off another ships shields that is cloaked right in front of them.
Wouldn't that be an epic way to introduce the F with the ablative generator and transphasic torpedoes, ably assisted by a load of Defiant class ships.
Joking aside I think we could see Starfleet square up against the Tal'Shiar fleet to defend the planet showing the Synths that it doesn't have to end badly, then that dodgy synth goes and calls the big bad in anyway.
The Zhat Vash need a good hiding for the attack on Mars.
Liking the look of the Commodore's ship, hard to judge its size though.
Which brings me to the most important and critical plot point of the whole show.
Where is Laris and Zhaban and would they consider Commodore Oh to be a cheeky fecker.
If they aren't in the finale' then all is lost. Season a failure!Which brings me to the most important and critical plot point of the whole show.
Where is Laris and Zhaban and would they consider Commodore Oh to be a cheeky fecker.
Seriously I do miss them!
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They can't assimilate her, she knows the secret and it will just wreck the cube again.Which leads me to believe that I might have been right about Narissa being assimilated just before she beamed out of the cube last week.
Will half the Romulan Armada be Borg when they arrive?
Seven gets even in a most delightful way for Rizzo spacing all those drones.
It looks like she was beamed aboard one of the ships before it jumped.
I believe you are correct---I missed it on first viewing and someone pointed it out. I believe she did get a last minute beam out on second viewing.
My concern for the finale is that the ending will be too predictable. Soji talking to Picard about sacrifice feels like an obvious telegraph that she will turn on the other synths and sacrifice herself to save the galaxy. And the scenes about mind transfer seems like a telegraph that Picard will transfer his mind into a synth body before he dies. I feel like we can pretty much guess how the finale will go. There will be a big battle. The synths will activate the beacon (we see that in the trailer). Soji will sacrifice herself to stop the threat. Picard dies but transfers his mind into a synth body.
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Yeah, it is hard to see with all the XB's on top of her.
If we don't see her in this weeks episode that could mean she is up to no good somewhere else, she may have made it onto the planet intending to trigger a war anyway.
This person also blames Kurtzman for road rage and expiration dates on dairy products.
I personally blame him for the coronavirus.
Some Trek fans will never be happy. They complain that Picard is too dark and the character of Picard is not true to TNG. We get a nice Picard speech that is very TNG about the better nature of Starfleet and it's not good enough. They complain that the show is not high scifi. We get an exploration of synthetic life, we discover there was a powerful empire 200,000 years ago that build an artificial star system by moving stars, we get themes of sacrifice and life and death, we learn about a federation of synthetic life that spans galaxies, all very interesting scifi concepts and they complain that it is too derivative of other scifi franchises. Sigh.
My problem with this episode wasn't that it wasn't TNG enough, it's that it was too TNG.
Very very good. Another rock solid 10/A+
-Evil Soji twin
-Maddox still dead (good)
-Narek playing both sides against the middle?
-Commodore Oh on Romulan ship, so she's a Romulan pretending to be a Vulcan/Romulan hybrid pretending to be a Vulcan?
-Spiner excellent as always
-Zhat Vash was correct in Admonition
-Borg cube still in play, oh you better believe it
-Federation squadron won't do jack shit against 218 warbirds
-Finale is going to be Amaaaazing...
-Evil Soji twin
-Maddox still dead (good)
-Narek playing both sides against the middle?
-Commodore Oh on Romulan ship, so she's a Romulan pretending to be a Vulcan/Romulan hybrid pretending to be a Vulcan?
-Spiner excellent as always
-Zhat Vash was correct in Admonition
-Borg cube still in play, oh you better believe it
-Federation squadron won't do jack shit against 218 warbirds
-Finale is going to be Amaaaazing...
You are entitled to that opinion of course. Nothing wrong with it. But some fans want Picard to be more like TNG. Personally, I liked that it felt a lot like a TNG episode. The lone settlement with the strange inhabitants coming out to greet the away team was very TOS and TNG.
I think you just prove my point though that you can't make everybody happy. Make the show too much like TNG and you disappoint fans who want something different. Make the show too different and you disappoint fans who want it to be more like TNG.
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I believe I actually said that in my post above.
And YES she was, but there's something about her They are not showing us this week.
Otherwise it seems very peculiar not to include her.
All 3 are hot in their own waysPlus Tricia Hefler and Grace Park (sorry, Lucy, both are way hotter)
Ha, yeah, I noticed that too. Oh won't Oh be so Oh surprised that she caused the whole mess she was trying to prevent
Seven: Keep saving the galaxy, Picard!
Picard: ~fails to shoot down baby Soong's incredibly juvenile argument.~
There were so many points Picard could have brought up.
* The hypocrisy in "organics will never care about you!" coming from an organic that insists he cares about them.
* That the only reason Romulus's most embarrassing secret society even started their anti-AI kick was the cursed post-it note left behind by the supposedly benevolent machine overlords.
* Pointing out the false equivalence between a ban on synth research and a campaign of genocide.
* Bringing up that he has, successfully, just a little bit ago, gotten Starfleet to commit a squadron of ships to protecting Soji and her world.
* The exocomps, machines far less advanced than Soong's, whose right to exist was recognized.
* Maybe mention Soong's earlier creation allied with a space benefactor to preemptively commit mass murder and it lead him down a path of madness and destruction.
* The fact that life isn't this organic vs. synthetic binary they're being presented with, there are silicon-based beings and energy beings and probably more.
It not like Picard gets shouted over or silenced, he doesn't even try, standing by quietly and letting his opponent's fallacies go without rebuttal. He gave freaking Shinzon more pushback.
Picard: ~fails to shoot down baby Soong's incredibly juvenile argument.~
There were so many points Picard could have brought up.
* The hypocrisy in "organics will never care about you!" coming from an organic that insists he cares about them.
* That the only reason Romulus's most embarrassing secret society even started their anti-AI kick was the cursed post-it note left behind by the supposedly benevolent machine overlords.
* Pointing out the false equivalence between a ban on synth research and a campaign of genocide.
* Bringing up that he has, successfully, just a little bit ago, gotten Starfleet to commit a squadron of ships to protecting Soji and her world.
* The exocomps, machines far less advanced than Soong's, whose right to exist was recognized.
* Maybe mention Soong's earlier creation allied with a space benefactor to preemptively commit mass murder and it lead him down a path of madness and destruction.
* The fact that life isn't this organic vs. synthetic binary they're being presented with, there are silicon-based beings and energy beings and probably more.
It not like Picard gets shouted over or silenced, he doesn't even try, standing by quietly and letting his opponent's fallacies go without rebuttal. He gave freaking Shinzon more pushback.
I think the direction of the show is that Picard will transfer his mind to the new body (that will look like someone else) and in season two there will be two Picards! By end of season 2, OG Picard will die while new Picard will continue on commanding some new ship
Just how reliable is the Admonition? It seems like the equivalent of spam which drives you nuts! This whole enterprise is predicated on a message from some nether region of space with no return address which (unfortunately) then gets embedded into the most paranoid culture in the quadrant.
To emphasize how much of an overkill the 218 warbirds against the synths is, the Tal Shiar at their height during the Dominion war only brought 5 warbirds and 15 Cardassian warships against the Founders' homeworld: https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Battle_of_the_Omarion_Nebula . Yes, 5 at the height of their power against the Dominion homeworld.
Yet now, after their Empire is destroyed, they have all these ships on call? And all these crews will follow without question a bombardment of a planet most of the crews other than the Zhat Vash have never heard of before? Even after Romulan authorities failed them in saving their homeworld? That's some loyalty.
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