Agreed, one mind meld brainwashing does not a seasoned spy make. I'm now even more convinced Agnes was Zhat Vash long before her meetup with Oh, which was likely just followup orders.
Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 1x06 - "The Impossible Box"
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Agnes said in the third episode she's a bad liar. Nothing she said in her autopsy report was technically a lie. She just withheld the whole truth.
Jurati explained (falsely) how Not!Maddox died to Picard. He trusts her, so he probably didn't think there was a reason to check the medical logs or ask the EMH. The others probably didn't really care.
It will probably come up again, though. Don't worry.
It will probably come up again, though. Don't worry.
The show's being produced by the biggest Voyager fangirl in the universe.
According to Last Best Hope, she has an MD too.
Agnes was there, and presumably would have queried the EMH herself. Does anyone have a reason to check up on her? I don't generally check up on people who tell me things if I don't have a pre-existing reason to suspect them. Do you do that?
You’re over thinking it.
A few quick items. I haven't read the rest of the thread since I watched, so forgive any repeats of what someone else might've said.
In "Balance of Terror" (TOS) and "The Enterprise Incident" (TOS), we never learned the names of the Romulan Commanders. In "The Enterprise Incident", she whispers her name to Spock and we in the audience never hear it. I love that this episode continues with that tradition. Narek's name isn't his real one. Romulans have code-names. And you only reveal your true name to lovers.
It didn't occur to me that Picard really hadn't been in a Borg Cube since "The Best of Both Worlds". The flashbacks, the PTSD, the overlap of the images between Picard and Locutus, and then Picard meeting Hugh were all just about as perfect as you can get. Picard was horrified at Borg who were trying to rescue him before Hugh showed up. Like Picard says, Hugh is doing good work. Humanoid-itarian (work with me here) work.
Soji finally has an idea of who she really is. The "flashbacks" were eerie. They were shot in a way that felt like a true nightmare. When Soji sees herself as a wooden doll being put together, it made me immediately think of Pinocchio, which is who Data used to be compared to.
When Soji is trying to escape from being killed and when she's escaping with Picard, I was on the edge of my seat both times. I was legitimately in suspense. Even though I knew they'd escape, I kept thinking "Go! GO!!!!!!"
I give the episode a 9.5 even though I voted a 10 in the poll (can't do halves). Why a 9.5? I have to take a little off for them overdoing Musiker drinking and vaping. We get it. They can take it down a notch while still getting the point across. But that's all I have.
In "Balance of Terror" (TOS) and "The Enterprise Incident" (TOS), we never learned the names of the Romulan Commanders. In "The Enterprise Incident", she whispers her name to Spock and we in the audience never hear it. I love that this episode continues with that tradition. Narek's name isn't his real one. Romulans have code-names. And you only reveal your true name to lovers.
It didn't occur to me that Picard really hadn't been in a Borg Cube since "The Best of Both Worlds". The flashbacks, the PTSD, the overlap of the images between Picard and Locutus, and then Picard meeting Hugh were all just about as perfect as you can get. Picard was horrified at Borg who were trying to rescue him before Hugh showed up. Like Picard says, Hugh is doing good work. Humanoid-itarian (work with me here) work.
Soji finally has an idea of who she really is. The "flashbacks" were eerie. They were shot in a way that felt like a true nightmare. When Soji sees herself as a wooden doll being put together, it made me immediately think of Pinocchio, which is who Data used to be compared to.
When Soji is trying to escape from being killed and when she's escaping with Picard, I was on the edge of my seat both times. I was legitimately in suspense. Even though I knew they'd escape, I kept thinking "Go! GO!!!!!!"
I give the episode a 9.5 even though I voted a 10 in the poll (can't do halves). Why a 9.5? I have to take a little off for them overdoing Musiker drinking and vaping. We get it. They can take it down a notch while still getting the point across. But that's all I have.
This isn't something we're Agnes is just saying, "Oh, you left the holodeck on, don't worry I turned it off". A man died. Most people in the real world even would look into this themselves.
Ok, this actually is the best response I heard on why they'd listen to her, didn't know that.
Here's a proto Agnes.
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Or a reactivation of repressed memories in case suspicion falls on her or she is interrogated.
I really fancy her for the attack on Mars, her job at the institute is not only the perfect cover but also gives her all the access she could need to compromise the droids that were designed there.
Seducing the boss is also a pretty standard way of making sure you know what is going on, as Narek has demonstrated with Soji.
The only question then would be timing, why were they triggered on that day as opposed to the day before or after, what was the trigger for the attack, was it all designed just to stop the rescue and then ban synthetic research, or was it purely to stop the research and the collapse of the rescue plan was an unintentional consequence.
I may see something on screen to make me change my mind but it would have to be something really substantial.
Does anyone else think Raffaela was a little rude to be vaping in front of everyone like that?
Baby Driver?
Doesn't even skip a beat before repeating this technique again
To make money for CBS.
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Think about it like this, why was Dahj seeking a placement at the institute of all places.Doesn't even skip a beat before repeating this technique again
Something she found out must have led back there.
To Jurati.
I don't know.
The only Romulans in the entire run of TOS who got onscreen names may have been Decius and Tal.
For all we know Spock's "Unification" movement was all just a scheme for him to be with the Romulan Commander.
"You got my parents' home blown up. We're through, Spock!"
