Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 1x06 - "The Impossible Box"

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Picard' started by Commander Richard, Feb 25, 2020.

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Rate the episode...

  1. 10 - Data

    23.6%
  2. 9

    41.9%
  3. 8

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  4. 7

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  5. 6

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  6. 5

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  7. 4

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  9. 2

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  10. 1 - Maddox

    1.2%
  1. Gonzo

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    Probably the wrong shade of green. :hugegrin:
     
  2. Galaxy

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    That looked like a Romulan though.
     
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  3. iamzod

    iamzod Ensign Red Shirt

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    No reason for it's accent to change if she removes the last minute of memory, it'll just have a missing minute in it's data.
     
  4. The Old Mixer

    The Old Mixer Mih ssim, mih ssim, nam, daed si Xim. Moderator

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    This was a facetious nod to how altering the ship's records in "Court Martial" caused the computer's chess program to malfunction.
     
  5. eschaton

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    So, the dream sequence that was shown during Ready Room - I wonder if it's going to be the opening scene for this upcoming week. Every single episode save the first one has begun with a "flashback" - and although this isn't something that truly happened 14 years prior, Soji seems around the right age in this dream that it could have been something she believed happened 14 years ago.
     
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  6. The Old Mixer

    The Old Mixer Mih ssim, mih ssim, nam, daed si Xim. Moderator

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    ^ Seems likely to me.
     
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  8. Jedi_Master

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    In the Force, things you will see, other places. The future, the past...TV shows, not yet aired.
     
  9. Ar-Pharazon

    Ar-Pharazon Admiral Premium Member

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    So like a premium channel?
     
  10. Tuskin38

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  11. Lord Garth

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    Jurati must've covered her tracks.
     
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  12. Gonzo

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    Its going to be a bit hard to believe if so.

    Maddox needed rest but he was stable enough to talk with Picard.

    It certainly ties in with her being the No 1 suspect for the attack on Mars, it would confirm that she had the means (skill), not just the motive and the opportunity.

    I understand its due to the needs of the plot but its stretching credibility a bit too far.
     
  13. Tuskin38

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    She's the foremost in cybernetics in the Federation. I'm sure she can hack a few computer records.

    Where did that come from?
     
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  14. Gonzo

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    Oh I don't doubt that I am talking about the gullibility of the others around her.
     
  15. SJGardner

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    Would this imply she's been placed on Maddox's team from the beginning to sabotage his work? That would be one interpretation of this whole thing. But still, if this were the case, why was she so terrified after meeting Oh? Has the Commodore always been her handler and only showed her the whole picture after Picard started digging?
     
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  16. Lord Garth

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    I'm dead sure everything Jurati is doing is because Oh did something to her. So there's no way she was up to the attack on Mars in 2385. I'm not seeing it.

    I think the Zhat Vash are behind the attack, they hacked into the Synths, there's a connection to the Conclave of Eight, and Musiker's been trying to prove it for all these years.
     
  17. Gonzo

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    Yeah I commented on it in the 1x05 thread but its buried deep in there.

    We didn't really see that much of her meeting with Oh so we can't assume anything about the conversation.

    Something set Jurati off big time, she could have been a sleeper agent who went dormant after the attack on Mars, alternatively its another Talia situation from B5 but that is a stretch at this point.

    Jurati just happened to be around when the events happened, same as now just in time to go with Picard and intercept Maddox, I am not buying her goody two shoes act any more.

    At this point in time it wouldnt surprise me if she is playing her own game.
     
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  18. Yistaan

    Yistaan Commodore Commodore

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    It's certainly possible. Agnes also didn't make Dahj and Soji herself, it seems her contributions were used without her knowing per Maddox's lines before he died.

    However, if Agnes were a spy from way back, why did she tell Picard about Soji? Why did she tell him about a twin? Why didn't she just say, "I'm sorry Dahj is dead, nothing to be done, go home now Admiral"
     
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  19. Gonzo

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    She did, over and over she told him it wasn't possible and that technology is a thousand years away after he asked her.

    Whether or not she was manipulating him at that point or just trying to get rid of him remains to be seen, then all of a sudden she turns up at the chateau in the nick of time and wants to go along, she was either told something or was helped to remember something.

    When she was standing there while Picard talked to Maddox, was she deciding how to kill him or did he say something that pushed her to do it, we know she was struggling with something earlier in the episode but she may not have decided or been ordered to kill him at that time.

    Was she ordered to kill him from the start, I cant see it myself as I would expect the Commodore would want to question him first like she wanted with Dahj, perhaps she was just waiting for something specific from him and when he gave it to Picard he signed his own death warrant.
     
  20. Yistaan

    Yistaan Commodore Commodore

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    Even after Picard's badgering she still could have feigned ignorance about the necklace indicating a twin though.
     
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