Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 1x05 - "Stardust City Rag"

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Picard' started by NCC-73515, Feb 14, 2020.


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  1. Jackson_Roykirk

    Jackson_Roykirk Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

    Jan 10, 2007
    Northeastern Pennsylvania
    Here's what meta...

    The first Space Shuttle (not space worthy, but used for testing within our atmosphere) was named Enterprise, and was named that specifically in honor of the TV show's hero ship.

    Then in various Star Treks (TMP, TNG, ENT) there were models or artwork of all ships to carry the name Enterprise, and one of those ship models/artwork was of the Space Shuttle.

    So in-universe, the history of ships named Enterprise includes one named after the fictional TV show ship.
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  2. SolarisOne

    SolarisOne Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

    Kinda already knew that.
  3. gaghyogi49

    gaghyogi49 Commander Red Shirt

    Sep 8, 2006
    Alright, here's the observations article for "Stardust City Rag". All the gory details you might have missed... ;-)


    Maybe we can do this again, there are a few more unidentified paintings in Picard's study:

    No idea what the one to the left of Seven depicts.

    The one to the right of Rios' head looks like a Baroque tapestry showing people in a garden.
  4. matthunter

    matthunter Admiral Admiral

    Feb 17, 2004
    Great Britain
    Obviously the Trekverse version of Galaxy Quest is a homage to the Orville.
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  5. Agony_Boothb

    Agony_Boothb Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

    Nov 3, 2009
    Melbourne, Australia
    I'd say the line gets drawn when a belief or custom impacts the rights of another or requires a life to be taken or the crew members life to be endangered. To use Klingons as an example Picard, Sisko and Janeway seemed pretty tolerant of most klingon customs. However, both Picard and Sisko drew the line at Worf taking a life and Janeway drew the line with B'elanna wanting to risk her own life to visit her mother in sto'vo'kor.

    I imagine that most Captain's would treat individual beliefs with an open mind, but whether they allow a crew member to practice those beliefs would depend on whether it breaks Federation law, how it would impact the crew and whether another life would be affected. At the end of the day Starfleet officers from different cultures know that they will have to make sacrifices regarding their cultures for the greater good. If they cannot understand that then they have no right to wear the uniform.
  6. slappy

    slappy Commodore Commodore

    May 10, 2001



    Star Trek is dead. TWOKrap killed it! - The Internet, had it existed in 1982
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  7. fireproof78

    fireproof78 Fleet Admiral Admiral

    Apr 11, 2014
    Classic Space
    This is the truth.

    Though, this misses the death threats that Meyer and Burnett received.
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  8. hbquikcomjamesl

    hbquikcomjamesl Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

    Oct 6, 2006
    Orange County, CA
    Oh.That was Icheb in the teaser. I was wondering what that was all about, and how it would tie in with the story.

    Good. It would have been better without the (as TVTropes calls it) "eye-scream" in the teaser. That cost it a mandatory 2-point deduction for gratuitous gross-out.

    I'd already stumbled onto a spoiler (while looking up the cast on MA) about Jurati
    killing Maddox.
    It was still shocking.
  9. Reanok

    Reanok Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

    Dec 26, 2002
    I recently rewatched This episode and what happened to poor Icheb was really shocking and controversial and how it ties into the story of Seven of Nine's story arc in season one.
    Also Dr Juratti killing Bruce Maddox was totally unexpected and seeing how it has consequences for Doctor Juratti's story arc too.I wonder how it maybe dealt with in season 2
    It was indeed shocking.
  10. hbquikcomjamesl

    hbquikcomjamesl Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

    Oct 6, 2006
    Orange County, CA
    That TVTropes has a name, and a page, for "eye scream" says something in and of itself.

    Speaking of which, I note that TVTropes lists two additional appearances of the trope, in "Et in Arcadia Ego" parts 1 and 2. Duly noted.
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  11. seigezunt

    seigezunt Vice Admiral Admiral

    Feb 2, 2007
    Kobayashi Saru's Fried Ganglia Shack
    Recently re-watched, and while it holds up, I do fast-forward through the eyeball horror now.
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  12. hbquikcomjamesl

    hbquikcomjamesl Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

    Oct 6, 2006
    Orange County, CA
    I have always been a big believer in the "Next Man's Nose" principle.