Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 1x05 - "Stardust City Rag"

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I just realized something. The Vulcans are almost as secretive as the Romulans.


This thread has really slowed down. Good thing the next episode airs in several hours. Hopefully that episode thread stays nice like this one did (lack of angry, circular arguments ruining it).
Almost? ;)
 
I just realized something. The Vulcans are almost as secretive as the Romulans.
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Until they are retconned as having talked about it for centuries, e.g. the Pon Farr, in Kirk's time no one among the humans knew what it was but a hundred years back that's all they could talk about, e.g. Trip and Malcolm joking about it on Risa...
 
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As usual its at the end of the episode, discussion starts at the 1 hour mark.
 
Until they are retconned as having talked about it for centuries, e.g. the Pon Farr, in Kirk's time no one among the humans knew what it was but a hundred years back that's all they could talk about, e.g. Trip and Malcolm joking about it on Risa...
Why do you think it became more of secret? How would you like your sex life and traditions to be made a joke? :vulcan:
 
Your statement was that AVATAR is no longer popular.

Yes.
Suddenly adding Splash Mountain to the conversation is just moving the goalpost to try and deflect from your original incorrect premise...

That's not at all what "moving the goalpost" is. Splash Mountain is a perfect example of why a popular ride in Disney Parks doesn't mean the underlying IP of that attraction is popular elsewhere.


Which was that AVATAR as an IP is No Longer Popular or has been Forgotten,
That is a completely false statement you decided to pull out of thin air.

It's not false and I didn't "pull it out of thin air" and I am far from the first person to have ever said so.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/scottm...eaving-no-pop-culture-footprint/#1b73df6f6159

https://www.theguardian.com/film/fi...-a-sequel-to-the-worlds-most-successful-movie


And it is simply proven by the extreme popularity of Disney's Pandora Park now.

Once again, the popularity of an attraction at Disney Parks doesn't mean that the underlying IP is popular in the real world. It just means that Disney created a great attraction.

There are plenty of theme park attractions that are wildly successful due to wildly popular IP (Harry Potter, Star Wars). There are other theme park attractions that are wildly successful just because they're good. Some of the most popular attractions at Disney Parks aren't based on anything at all. Space Mountain routinely has the longest line in WDW and DL and it's based on nothing. As Haunted Mansion and POTC were (originally.) Peter Pan's Flight is ridiculously popular at Disney World and it's safe to say that that particular Disney film has a very small following and awareness.

Where's the Avatar merch? Where's the Avatar animated series? Where are the Avatar fan groups, cosplayers, role playing games, fan art? Where's the Avatar bbs? While I'm sure you could find a few scattered examples of these, compared to true IP juggernauts like Marvel, Harry Potter, Star Wars, DC, Star Tre, etc., it's not even close. Avatar's not even a blip compared to those.

You Opinions are just like everybody else's, nothing but conjecture.
And more often than not, many of yours are easily proven to be wrong.

Not every post is mere opinion. Some things that I (and countless others) post are actual facts and are not subject to interpretation.
 
Do we know for sure if there is any actual technology inside the twins? Or is it a situation where they are 100% biological like the replicants from Blade Runner or the humanoid Cylons from nu-BSG?
Could be, but so far two people we know were involved in their creation worked specialized in technology rather than biology, and they were at least somewhat based on Data, who was pure technology. So right now my thought is that they have skin and blood and possibly muscle, but one you get down past that stuff they're technology, kind of like a Terminator, although I'd expect there to be more there than just a skeleton. I swear there was a character I've seen that's closer to what I was thinking, but I can't remember what/who it was.
 
Could be, but so far two people we know were involved in their creation worked specialized in technology rather than biology, and they were at least somewhat based on Data, who was pure technology. So right now my thought is that they have skin and blood and possibly muscle, but one you get down past that stuff they're technology, kind of like a Terminator, although I'd expect there to be more there than just a skeleton. I swear there was a character I've seen that's closer to what I was thinking, but I can't remember what/who it was.
Maybe you were thinking of Marcus Wright from Terminator: Salvation?
Or perhaps Two from Dark Matter?
 
Why do you think it became more of secret? How would you like your sex life and traditions to be made a joke? :vulcan:

They're Vulcans. They're not supposed to indulge in emotions, including irritation at being mocked. ;)

P.S. [Board Manager hat on] Those of you getting personal in here. KNOCK IT THE $*#@ OFF! I'm getting tired of reading the shit. Don't make me go Romulan on your ass! [/Board Manager hat off.]
 
Moment Seven of Nine changed forever:

"When we were shooting the later scenes, where she is confronting Bjayzl and explaining everything that's happened to Picard — as I was describing this scene, I'd be sobbing," Ryan says. "We did several takes of that, because as I'd say what had happened, Jeri, me the actor Jeri, kept bursting into tears. For several takes, it was just me sloppy crying. You feel it so deeply as a parent. That is probably the greatest tragedy of Seven's life. Even more than being assimilated and having her parents assimilated at such a young age."


https://www.syfy.com/syfywire/star-trek-picard-jeri-ryan-the-moment-seven-of-nine-was-changed
 
That's definitely not how things like that went down. Worf got a ready room lecture for going over to a Klingon ship and taking care of legitimate Klingon personal/cultural business (killing Duras).
My turn to exaggerate. :D But what I remember most from TNG, rather than them being holier than thou, is how tolerant they were of other cultures, even if they objected (usually with good reason). Like the androgynous culture or the euthanasia culture.
 
Stardust City Rag
The fifth episode. Certainly a mixed bag. The extraction of Icheb's implants at the beginning didn't need to be so gory. It would have been as emotionally moving without the gore. The way Seven reacts is very believable. It is clear they had continued to be there for each other after Voyager returned to the Alpha Quadrant. On the topic of Icheb, maybe the Romulans came up with something similar to what the Brunali did, and sacrificed the Shaenor as Icheb was? La Sirena arrives at Freecloud, only to be greeted by, popup ads?
It works. (While Rios has the holograms, he clearly hasn't got up to date ad blockers.) Using Seven as bait? That works too. More on what happens below. (Quarks and Mot franchising... Cool.) Also, an alien that can smell lies is also an interesting concept. But the way the group goes about infiltrating the bar to find Bruce Maddox was rather good, even if some of it seems hokey. Elnor's line “Are we still pretending?” makes it worthwhile. But someone is missing, Raffi. She has her own reason for being on Freecloud.
She wants to reconnect with her son, after she had left him to help Picard with the evacuation. However, he wants nothing of it, despite her protestations that she's recovering from her addictions. Of course it's not just the addictions, but the conspiracy theories too. The result of mixing them together was interesting, but well done. That the relationship remains broken is believable. Talking of broken relationships... Seven (or Annika) and Bjayzl. Certainly an interesting match. And her telling Bjayzl of Icheb is what leads to his demise.
Seven's motivation for being on Freecloud becomes obvious rather quickly, and Picard tries to talk her out of taking her vengenance out on Bjayzl. But to no avail, despite their connecting over their recovery/reclaimation from being captured by the Collective. (That scene was rather well done, and there was a great use of a leitmotif from the Voyager theme.) The end scene with Jurati killing Maddox just raises more questions. The EMH would tell, surely. Overall, an interesting episode. 7.5/10. (Would have been higher without the gore!)
 
Dude. I'm in my 50s and I still love going to amusement parks. The next time I'm in California, it's Disneyland and Galaxy's Edge for this old fogey.

How about a kind of Disneyland but for adults? You know with things only adults are authorized to see. That I think I'd be interested in.
 
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