Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 1x05 - "Stardust City Rag"

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Picard' started by NCC-73515, Feb 14, 2020.

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  1. Nerys Myk

    Nerys Myk Cartoon Premium Member

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    Almost? ;)
     
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  2. Discofan

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    Until they are retconned as having talked about it for centuries, e.g. the Pon Farr, in Kirk's time no one among the humans knew what it was but a hundred years back that's all they could talk about, e.g. Trip and Malcolm joking about it on Risa...
     
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  3. Captain Moe

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    Latest episode of my podcast is up and has a review/discussion for epiode 5 Stardust City Rag

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    As usual its at the end of the episode, discussion starts at the 1 hour mark.
     
  4. Gilora

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    We old Boomer TOS fans got your joke, my friend.
     
  5. fireproof78

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    Why do you think it became more of secret? How would you like your sex life and traditions to be made a joke? :vulcan:
     
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  6. Gov Kodos

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    The Vulcan Love Slave series.


    That's just marriage.
     
  7. fireproof78

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    True.
     
  8. Crewman6

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    Yes.
    That's not at all what "moving the goalpost" is. Splash Mountain is a perfect example of why a popular ride in Disney Parks doesn't mean the underlying IP of that attraction is popular elsewhere.


    It's not false and I didn't "pull it out of thin air" and I am far from the first person to have ever said so.

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/scottm...eaving-no-pop-culture-footprint/#1b73df6f6159

    https://www.theguardian.com/film/fi...-a-sequel-to-the-worlds-most-successful-movie


    Once again, the popularity of an attraction at Disney Parks doesn't mean that the underlying IP is popular in the real world. It just means that Disney created a great attraction.

    There are plenty of theme park attractions that are wildly successful due to wildly popular IP (Harry Potter, Star Wars). There are other theme park attractions that are wildly successful just because they're good. Some of the most popular attractions at Disney Parks aren't based on anything at all. Space Mountain routinely has the longest line in WDW and DL and it's based on nothing. As Haunted Mansion and POTC were (originally.) Peter Pan's Flight is ridiculously popular at Disney World and it's safe to say that that particular Disney film has a very small following and awareness.

    Where's the Avatar merch? Where's the Avatar animated series? Where are the Avatar fan groups, cosplayers, role playing games, fan art? Where's the Avatar bbs? While I'm sure you could find a few scattered examples of these, compared to true IP juggernauts like Marvel, Harry Potter, Star Wars, DC, Star Tre, etc., it's not even close. Avatar's not even a blip compared to those.

    Not every post is mere opinion. Some things that I (and countless others) post are actual facts and are not subject to interpretation.
     
  9. Turtletrekker

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    Dude. I'm in my 50s and I still love going to amusement parks. The next time I'm in California, it's Disneyland and Galaxy's Edge for this old fogey.
     
  10. fireproof78

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    Can't wait for you.
     
  11. Crewman6

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    They're better if you're an adult.
     
  12. JD

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    Could be, but so far two people we know were involved in their creation worked specialized in technology rather than biology, and they were at least somewhat based on Data, who was pure technology. So right now my thought is that they have skin and blood and possibly muscle, but one you get down past that stuff they're technology, kind of like a Terminator, although I'd expect there to be more there than just a skeleton. I swear there was a character I've seen that's closer to what I was thinking, but I can't remember what/who it was.
     
  13. Kevman7987

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    Maybe you were thinking of Marcus Wright from Terminator: Salvation?
    Or perhaps Two from Dark Matter?
     
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    They're Vulcans. They're not supposed to indulge in emotions, including irritation at being mocked. ;)

    P.S. [Board Manager hat on] Those of you getting personal in here. KNOCK IT THE $*#@ OFF! I'm getting tired of reading the shit. Don't make me go Romulan on your ass! [/Board Manager hat off.]
     
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    https://www.syfy.com/syfywire/star-trek-picard-jeri-ryan-the-moment-seven-of-nine-was-changed
     
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    My turn to exaggerate. :D But what I remember most from TNG, rather than them being holier than thou, is how tolerant they were of other cultures, even if they objected (usually with good reason). Like the androgynous culture or the euthanasia culture.
     
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    Stardust City Rag
    The fifth episode. Certainly a mixed bag. The extraction of Icheb's implants at the beginning didn't need to be so gory. It would have been as emotionally moving without the gore. The way Seven reacts is very believable. It is clear they had continued to be there for each other after Voyager returned to the Alpha Quadrant. On the topic of Icheb, maybe the Romulans came up with something similar to what the Brunali did, and sacrificed the Shaenor as Icheb was? La Sirena arrives at Freecloud, only to be greeted by, popup ads?
    It works. (While Rios has the holograms, he clearly hasn't got up to date ad blockers.) Using Seven as bait? That works too. More on what happens below. (Quarks and Mot franchising... Cool.) Also, an alien that can smell lies is also an interesting concept. But the way the group goes about infiltrating the bar to find Bruce Maddox was rather good, even if some of it seems hokey. Elnor's line “Are we still pretending?” makes it worthwhile. But someone is missing, Raffi. She has her own reason for being on Freecloud.
    She wants to reconnect with her son, after she had left him to help Picard with the evacuation. However, he wants nothing of it, despite her protestations that she's recovering from her addictions. Of course it's not just the addictions, but the conspiracy theories too. The result of mixing them together was interesting, but well done. That the relationship remains broken is believable. Talking of broken relationships... Seven (or Annika) and Bjayzl. Certainly an interesting match. And her telling Bjayzl of Icheb is what leads to his demise.
    Seven's motivation for being on Freecloud becomes obvious rather quickly, and Picard tries to talk her out of taking her vengenance out on Bjayzl. But to no avail, despite their connecting over their recovery/reclaimation from being captured by the Collective. (That scene was rather well done, and there was a great use of a leitmotif from the Voyager theme.) The end scene with Jurati killing Maddox just raises more questions. The EMH would tell, surely. Overall, an interesting episode. 7.5/10. (Would have been higher without the gore!)
     
  18. Discofan

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    Yes, but it's nearly impossible to keep a secret when people already know about it.
     
  19. Discofan

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    How about a kind of Disneyland but for adults? You know with things only adults are authorized to see. That I think I'd be interested in.
     
  20. Hythlodeus

    Hythlodeus Commodore Commodore

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    you're describing Las Vegas