Star Trek passings

Discussion in 'General Trek Discussion' started by keel, Oct 16, 2017.

  1. Gvsualan

    Gvsualan Lieutenant Junior Grade Red Shirt

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    Same here. But then again, John Winston seemed to indicate his appearances meant very little to him.

    As for what I've found, most that I have births but no deaths I'm assuming are still alive, or at least only recently passed and that data hasn3 ttickled down yet into the information catacombs yet.

    I have a few others on the back burner i need a bit more evidence to confirm verification, but a lot also simply have too common of names. I did find the birthdates of the other, other twins from "I, Mudd", Starr and Tamara Wilson, born 13 Dec 1947, but I can't find much info beyond the late 60s for one, and mid-70s for the other.

    Which, with these two, and the aforementioned Thornton sisters, brings me to wonder which were the the ones, exactly, who had the bobcat and have never been fully ID'd aside from a couple vague references.

    The Making of Star Trek, pp. 349-50:

    "It is easy to get the impression that every casting decision is carefully thought out in advance. Nothing could be further from the truth. There have been occasions when a casting decision was the result of pure chance. This was certainly the case with the episode entitled "I, Mudd."​

    "It was an unusual casting problem in that a number of identical twins were needed for extras, as well as for the leading ladies. Joe D'Agosta soon found out Hollywood is unbelievably short on girl twins who are beautiful, have great figures, and can act. He simply couldn't find twin girls who were right for the part. The situation began to get desperate. Then one evening, on his way home, he was driving down Sunset Boulevard and by chance saw two lovely young twin girls walking along the sidewalk. He immediately stopped the car, jumped out, and accosted them, saying "Can you act? Have you ever acted?" Apparently he was really in a dither, and he hadn't even introduced himself. The girls thought he was trying to put something over on them.​

    "Joe finally convinced the girls he was indeed a casting director from Desilu Studios, and if they would please, please appear the following day, they would get an interview for a part in a television show. When the girls came in. Joe brought them into a meeting with Dorothy Fontana, Gene Coon, and Bob Justman. They were lovely girls, about seventeen or eighteen years old, with great figures. They were both wearing low-cut dresses, with the skirt ending at about the hip, and they had a bobcat with them.

    "A real wild bobcat.

    "It was their pet and was about six weeks old at the time. Bob Justman was apparently somewhat flustered at the sight of these lovely young ladies in micro-mini skirts and tinkling peace bells, and not knowing where to fasten his eyes, he began staring at the bobcat. Bob made small talk, and since the bobcat was the thing he had been staring at, he talked about bobcats. (He also nearly had a finger gnawed off by the affectionate animal.) He told the girls that when bobcats get bigger, if they're not spayed, they kill dogs. One of the girls said very innocently, "Well, how do you know when they are old enough?" Bob replied, "When they start killing dogs."

    "(Bob says he doesn't remember that . . . probably because he was dazed at the time.)​

    'From the Notes of "Charlie Star Trek"', Starlog #112, November 1986, p. 72:

    "Most Unusual Request. During the pro- duction of "I, Mudd," a number of sets of twins were used. I was summoned to the dressing room of a female pair of twins by the wardrobe girl, Andrea Weaver, who told me that they were going to leave the set to go home for an emergency. When I arrived, I learned the emergency's nature: their pet bobcat had escaped! They were bent on leav- ing immediately, but I talked through the situation with them. We agreed that they would stay, but I would keep in touch through calls to a neighbor of theirs. It worked. They stayed. They stayed. I never found out what happened to the bobcat, though."
    I also feel like there is a third reference somewhere that escapes me, something like someone pointed out to the casting director that the girls may have been of ill repute...or I could be very wrong.

    Either way, neither appeared to have previously acted. The Thornton sisters were 21, the Wilson sisters were 19. The description seems to fit that of the Thornton sisters, as well as the lifestyle they lived for the next several years, vs. the Wilson sisters who months later joined the military. It's all a bit subjective, but a curious thing to ponder, nonetheless.
     
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  2. Gvsualan

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    Victoria George: born July 15 1939

    And I couldn't find anything on Libby Erwin...or uncredited folk like Joan Webster, Joe Paz or Russ Peek.
     
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    Jon Cavett, credited as a guard in "The Devil in the Dark", was born 1940, died 2011. Still can't figure out who George E. Allen even is, Engineer #1, character or actor, from the same ep.
     
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    I always thought the engineer number one was the guy helping Scotty with the circulating pump. But if it was they must have cut his lines because he doesn't say anything in the episode.
     
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    I ageee that Scott's assistant best fits the description, but he didn't appear in the scenes Allen was present for.
    See the second section on his talk page.
    Per a recently discovered call sheet with Allen listed on it, cross referenced with the script, there are 5 "for sure" unidentified actors. Only one is especially "visible", but there is nothing in the script that indicates that any one character was for sure Engineer #1 or that anything was cut.
     
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    Also, I'm fairly confident that I found Professor Starnes actor James Wellman b. 1930 d. 1999.
     
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    There is a thread at a Twilight Zone website that also tracks all the actors who performed on the original Twilight Zone and James Wellman also appeared uncredited in the episode "To Serve Man" -- and that thread also shows that James Wellman has died.

    Here is a link to the thread at the Twilight Zone website forum that tracks all of the actors that appeared in case anyone is interested. And as I stated in another thread at least 96 actors from the original Twilight Zone appeared in various Star Trek Productions.
    https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/twi...tor-database-birth-death-dates-of--t2506.html
     
  8. Gvsualan

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    Well shoot, Im glad I can confirm the accuracy of my results for Wellman, but I could have saved a lot of wasted time doing it had I know about that list before. Oh well.
     
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    I apologize. I had forgotten there were any names on that list that had not already been listed in this thread until you mentioned Wellman.
    As for your list - I know of no other actors besides those on your list.
    11 of those had spoken lines and were credited. 5 were credited by they had no lines or their lines were cut and the rest must have been extras or stunt people.
     
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    It's cool. Evidently their list is also of credited folk because Irene Sale was also uncredited in the TZ but not on that list.

    I did manage to find Joe Paz afterall, b. 11/6/23 d. 3/2/02. He had a couple closeups in Season 2.
     
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    Ok, so I found two more alive, one credited... Barbara Gates (b. Sep 2 1938) and one uncredited, Suzanne Lodge (b. Mar 15, 1944).
     
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    And one more, Keith Taylor, b. 2/5/50.
     
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    I found Jim Spencer (b. 1940 d. 2010)...he was right under our noses, as it stated outright in his obituary he was in that episode as well as an episode of gilligan's island.

    James Oswald Spencer, 70, of Newport, Ore. and Fountain Hills, Ariz., died on Dec. 28, 2010 in a traffic accident near Williams, Calif., while en route to his Arizona home.

    He was born James Spencer Oswald on Sept. 22, 1940 to James Stuart Oswald and Lorraine Long Oswald in Arizona. He attended Van Nuys High School in Van Nuys, Calif. and Santa Monica City College in Santa Monica, Calif., where he majored in photography, a lifelong passion and career.

    At 17, he managed Van Nuys Car Wash and was also a skilled carpenter who did work making room additions to houses, some for celebrity clients. He was in the Army Special Forces from 1962-64. He changed his name to James Spencer when he was briefly a model and actor. Among his roles was an appearance in Tomorrow is Yesterday, a 1967 episode of the original Star Trek, where he played an air policeman, and he played Astronaut Ryan on Gilligan’s Island in the Splashdown episode.

    For more than 48 years, he provided innovative and imaginative photography for clients around the world with his company Creative Directions (www.creative-directions.net). Motorola, Texaco and AT&T were among his countless clients. He also specialized in corporate and personal portraits. His photos of the Oregon coast, Yaquina Lighthouses (www.yaquinalights.org) and White Sands National Monument, N.M. remain popular among visitors. He also taught several workshops in photography in White Sands.

    In 2006, he married Ingrid Lila Fili in Las Vegas, Nev.

    He enjoyed working on and riding motorcycles. He spent a great deal of time renovating his homes and doting on his dog, Mischa. His great sense of humor, contagious laughter and love of life made him many devoted friends.
    [...]

    His wife, Ingrid, suffered serious injuries in the accident and is being treated at UC Davis Medical Center in Sacramento. His funeral arrangements will be made pending her recovery.
     
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    I was a big fan of 'The Mod Squad' and thought his character was the coolest dude ever. His character on DSN was one of the best. God, how I'll miss him.
     
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    Mod Squad...THAT was a long time ago.
     
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    The Old Fart club can meet after our naps.
     
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    I can't meet then -- that's when I go to my doctor
     
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