Star Trek Maps inquiry

[Arpy]

I've long heard of Star Trek Maps and one can find the cover on the net, but I've never seen a single image from the book. Does anyone have one or know where one is?

This book gets mentioned a lot among trek map enthusiasts but the fact that it's basically been lost to history makes me think it's been romanticized beyond its worth.

 

[Christopher]

I still have my copy, though my scanner's busted so I can't provide any images from it.

So it's not "lost to history," but I'm not sure what you mean about it being "romanticized." It's a significant work for a variety of reasons. It offers an interesting look at a conjectural view of the Trek universe as it was known around 1980, before subsequent shows forced a rethink of our assumptions. In many ways it's a prototype for the more recent Star Charts from the same creator, but it's extremely different.

 

[Wingsley]

STAR TREK MAPS consists of three items:

1 & 2: Two very large poster-sized maps of the Galaxy/Federation

3: A booklet attachment, the "Introduction to Navigation: Star Fleet Command" which contains text to discuss the maps, warp drive, navigation and a list of important planets that includes just about all the worlds the TOS Enterprise visited.

My opinion, FWIW, is that MAPS did an excellent job trying to capture the "feel" of TOS much better than the 1975 Tech Manual. MAPS is closely matched to (TOS-only) canon, so there's a nice continuity feel. The message comes across clearly that MAPS went into pain-staking detail to quote TOS, chapter and verse.

To this day, I still prefer to derive from MAPS and superimpose it over "the rest" on the STAR TREK Universe wherever there isn't too much conflict. I would expect that the single most interesting aspect of MAPS' technical legacy was its discussion of warp drive and warp speed, which still strikes me as superior to anyone else's meditation on the subject (with minor modifications to reflect what we've learned from other series, of course).

 

[BK613]

My opinion, FWIW, is that MAPS did an excellent job trying to capture the "feel" of TOS much better than the 1975 Tech Manual. MAPS is closely matched to (TOS-only) canon, so there's a nice continuity feel. The message comes across clearly that MAPS went into pain-staking detail to quote TOS, chapter and verse.

IIRC, TAS was also referenced. At least I seem to recall a large area marked Kzin Space or some such...may have to dig these out of storage to see.

To this day, I still prefer to derive from MAPS and superimpose it over "the rest" on the STAR TREK Universe wherever there isn't too much conflict. I would expect that the single most interesting aspect of MAPS' technical legacy was its discussion of warp drive and warp speed, which still strikes me as superior to anyone else's meditation on the subject (with minor modifications to reflect what we've learned from other series, of course).

I agree. Real navigation with ships and aircraft involve a lot more than pointing the vessel in a certain direction and pushing the GO button. There's fuel and traffic and obstacles to be avoided, not to mention the variables of weather and ocean. ST Maps' take on warp drive captured that sense of complexity and applied it to space navigation, thereby achieving an authenticity that "official" takes on warp drive lacked.

 

[Christopher]

ST Maps also contains some in-joke references to other science fiction besides Trek. These include Niven's Ringworld as well as the Kzinti Patriarchy; Hivehom and Tran-Ky-Ky from Alan Dean Foster's Humanx Commonwealth; Mongo; Pern; Riverworld; THX-1138 (the George Lucas movie); Mote Prime from Niven & Pournelle's The Mote in God's Eye; even Kobol from Battlestar Galactica! Plus it features Briamos from the original portion of Star Trek Log Ten and Anomaly and Chatalia from Joe Haldeman's Bantam Trek novels.

There are also some homage names: Jefferies' Star, Trumbull's Star, Cole's Star, Mandel's Star, Suligowski's Star, Winston's Star, Pal's Star, Clarke's Star, Wise's Star, Disney's Star, Feinberg's Star, Roddenberry, Drexler, Nemecek, Ellison, Asimov. And those are just the ones I recognized.

 

[therealfoxbat]

I have a copy on PDF...

 

[Albertese]

^^^

You do? Can I have a copy on PDF...?

--Alex

 

[Wingsley]

Yes, I noticed the homages. Cute.

Even though MAPS is not a novel per se, I still consider it to be among the best TREK literature ever produced. It does tell a story, of sorts, by exploring the TREK Universe.

It's fantasy, I know, but I would love to see it re-printed someday...

 

[therealfoxbat]

^^^

You do? Can I have a copy on PDF...?

--Alex

I don't mind, but I'll need help with how to get it there (I'm still pretty new at this Internet stuff). The PDF is about twice as big as any attachment I can put on my e-mail...

 

[Captain Robert April]

ST Maps also contains some in-joke references to other science fiction besides Trek. These include Niven's Ringworld as well as the Kzinti Patriarchy...

Did someone forget "The Slaver Weapon", along with the other TAS references to the Kzniti?

It's also worth noting that the timeline presented in the Star Trek Maps is within pretty much in line with the often-ridiculed "OkudaChron", and a rather radical departure from the timeline presented in other contemporary works, like the Spaceflight Chronology.

 

[Christopher]

ST Maps also contains some in-joke references to other science fiction besides Trek. These include Niven's Ringworld as well as the Kzinti Patriarchy...

Did someone forget "The Slaver Weapon", along with the other TAS references to the Kzniti?

Of course not. I said "as well as" because it's a given that the Kzinti are included because of TAS. In other words, "Not only does it include Niven's Kzinti Patriarchy as you'd expect because of the TAS connection, but his Ringworld as well."

 

[137th Gebirg]

^^^

You do? Can I have a copy on PDF...?

--Alex

I don't mind, but I'll need help with how to get it there (I'm still pretty new at this Internet stuff). The PDF is about twice as big as any attachment I can put on my e-mail...

If you send me a CD of it I can host it at on one of my servers. Let me know and I'll PM my mailing address. I have the original map set myself but I would love to get a digital copy of it. Out of curiosity, how big is it?

 

[therealfoxbat]

If you send me a CD of it I can host it at on one of my servers. Let me know and I'll PM my mailing address. I have the original map set myself but I would love to get a digital copy of it. Out of curiosity, how big is it?

I suppose I could do that. I could also turn it into thirty-odd large images. I have heard there is a method to send larger files through the internet, I just don't know what it is...

The PDF is about 45 MB. Yahoo and Gmail don't do attachments bigger than 25 MB...

 

[Albertese]

If you're up to the hassle of breaking it down to manageable sizes or burning it to CD and mailing it ti 137 that would be awesome. Heck, if you want, I might even be willing to mail you a blank CD and have you send it back with the pdf's on it.

I've been jonesing for Star Trek Maps since I first learned of its existence in the mid-90's!

--Alex

 

[BK613]

^^ hmm you might try winRAR since will let you break a file into several archives and then assemble them on the other end.

 

[therealfoxbat]

If you're up to the hassle of breaking it down to manageable sizes or burning it to CD and mailing it ti 137 that would be awesome. Heck, if you want, I might even be willing to mail you a blank CD and have you send it back with the pdf's on it.

I've been jonesing for Star Trek Maps since I first learned of its existence in the mid-90's!

--Alex

Albertese and 137th Gebirg...

Check your private messages...

 

[Arpy]

Well, who ever can, post it! Or send me a copy! I've been curious about this for years...even started putting together some ideas for a map of the Trek universe of my own some time back. I'd really like to see this!

 

[Kaiser]

http://www.majorracal.com/pdf/Misc Trek/Star Trek Maps.pdf

theres a link for it enjoy

 

[RichMerk]

That is so awesome. Thank you! I have a copy of the Maps, but I used them so much when I was a kid that they are in such a condition that I'm afraid to take them out of their jacket. Now I can look at 'em whenever I feel a TOS attack coming over me.

 

[Kaiser]

That is so awesome. Thank you! I have a copy of the Maps, but I used them so much when I was a kid that they are in such a condition that I'm afraid to take them out of their jacket. Now I can look at 'em whenever I feel a TOS attack coming over me.

Your welcome though its not my site there

http://www.majorracal.com/pdf/

I found while looking for trek books myself has .pdf's of many Ship books