Spoilers Star Trek: Lower Decks 2x07 - "Where Pleasant Fountains Lie"

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Lower Decks' started by Commander Richard, Sep 22, 2021.

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  1. Commander Richard

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  2. Kelso

    Kelso Vice Admiral Admiral

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    Good title.
     
  3. Super Grover

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    yes, very TOS.
     
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  4. DaveyNY

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    So, Finally, we get Jeffery Combs back in Star Trek.
    He's doing the Evil Computer Voice in this weeks episode

    About time. :techman:
     
  5. Enterprise is Great

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    Will Mariner make the computer explode by doing the Kirk Jedi mind trick?
     
  6. tomalak301

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    It was a decent episode. Not as good as last week, but I will give it a 7. Nice to see Boimler getting the upper hand on situations this season because in Season 1 he really was kind of an idiot. I was hoping for a Clone/Vorta/Founder joke from the evil computer but alas none came. I do wonder if that final scene set up the finale for this season. Attack of the Super Computers? Maybe something that echos the Kaylon storyline from The Orville? As for the Billups storyline, I guess being a virgin does have it's advantages. It was meddling at best, even though I appreciate some backstory on the guy.
     
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    “You dare mock Agamus!? I shall blind you.”

    I admit I laughed too hard at that.

    Starfleet does bug hunts now? What is this, Alien? :)
     
  8. KamenRiderBlade

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    I love the Knight Rider reference =D

    I loved the fact that Boimler was competent and managed to trick the evil AI by tricking his friend.

    And the fact that Okinawa has a lab full of Evil AI's locked in small lockers is worrisome.

    Am I the only one who thought Agimus' Box looked like a old school Macintosh?

    It also seems like Tendi is one step closer to admitting her feelings for Rutherford after thinking that she nearly lost him again.
     
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    I would rate it as an average episode.

    When I saw Billups skin changed color, I thought there might be an issue with my computer until I realized that it was integral to the character's physiology. His backstory has familiar elements to someone who might have watched the Deanna and Lwaxana Troi relationship back on TNG. The aristocrat wanting their children to get hitched with someone and having a family.
     
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  10. Bad Thoughts

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    Decent episode. Loved hearing Jeff Combs back on Trek. Casting Billups as the Deanna Troi character with an overactive mother, albeit being somewhat asexual, seemed a little silly, but has potential.
     
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  11. Ar-Pharazon

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    It was a good episode, but ^^he^^ makes it an 8 for me.

    Did anyone notice one of the "evil computers" has a CBS logo?
    STLD-Evil Computers 2a2.jpg

    ETA: got a cleaner screencap
     
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  12. bookworm8571

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    I mixed up Billups with Stevens at first but the reluctant prince is always an entertaining plot. He appears to be either asexual or gay.

    I also like the evil computer. It reminds me a bit of the room filled with cursed objects in The Conjuring. The Daystrom Institute could be the setting for a great Halloween movie.
     
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  13. eschaton

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    That was a great episode hands down.

    The A plot with Mariner, Boimler, and the evil computer voiced by Jeffrey Combs was fantastic. The scope somehow felt epic in a way that Lower Decks seldom manages,, there was a nice, somewhat unpredictable twist at the end, and the character interaction was awesome.

    The B plot involving Billups being royalty was kinda silly, but I was happy to see a secondary character get a good deal of focus. It provided us with some nice contrasts between Tendi and Rutherford at the end as well - two characters I had issues distinguishing in the first season sometimes.

    I especially loved that this episode was basically a straight up drama. Jokes were limited, and memberberries from earlier Trek were almost absent. The show is finally confident enough to stand on its own.
     
  14. DaveyNY

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    Yep, the funniest part of the episode.... the "CBS Evil Computer". :lol:

    They should have had one with an Apple showing though. :techman:



    Not very often that a character is saved by wanting to be more "Impotent" than his mother desired.
    (also, I'm not so sure that staring at ones dick in a mirror, is very helpful in getting one aroused)
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    Gave it a 7.
     
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  15. Ar-Pharazon

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    You know how Apple is with their ™. Almost as bad as Disney™.
     
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    Nothing they could have done if LD had used a full apple, the actual symbol has a bite taken out of it.
     
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  17. Deks

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    Yup, that was pretty good.

    Agimus has tentacles he can use, but if they were useful for escaping, he probably would have used them by now (otherwise, he seems immobile)... or other evil computers would have tried to escape.
    My thinking is that those are airtight containers and specifically designed to hold those AI's in place... aka, not specifically power dependent (which would be worrysome if they were).

    What I find more worrysome is that there are apparently so many 'evil' AI's in Trek. One would have thought it would have veered away from that trope.

    Some similiarities now that I look at it.

    I'm getting those vibes from her, but she seems more like a really good/close friend.
    I kinda thought Rutherford would actually go for Billups (romantically). We saw something similar to that in Season 1 when Mariner altered Boims holodeck program with the crew.
     
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  18. jackoverfull

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    Best episode of the season so far, giving a 9 and only because I’m very hesitant about giving tens.

    The A-plot was really good, building on the classic shuttle craft crash and evil computer tropes to do something truly special, I didn’t see it coming that Boimler was using the (very, very scary!) computer instead of being duped, well-done!

    The b-plot was good as well, with a more sinister version of Lwaxana up to the usual shenanigans, it was kinda obvious that the explosion was a ruse but I still liked it.

    Interesting to point out that the whole episode was played mostly straight and could have easily been out of TNG or another “serious@ trek series. This is not necessarily a bad thing.

    only laugh for me at the very end, where the Daystrom institute (whose outside perfectly replicates its appearance in Picard, some 20 years later) has a wall full of evil computers.
     
  19. jackoverfull

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    yes, the imaginary of the computer on the throne of skulls had really Orville feelings.
     
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  20. eschaton

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    Also, I now really want robo-Combs checked out of the Daystrom Institute by Picard. Maybe in Season 3.