As Boimler points out he and Mariner are "like the same age" so it makes no sense she has "more experience" and is so world hardened.
The episode says she had been on grey ops missions with K’orin.
As Boimler points out he and Mariner are "like the same age" so it makes no sense she has "more experience" and is so world hardened.
The episode says she had been on grey ops missions with K’orin.
While being in hear early 20s.
Makes perfect sense.
Even I don't see that as being the case.While being in hear early 20s.
Makes perfect sense.
No, it's because she's a Mary Sue, Ms. Perfect and Great at Experienced at Everything with no flaws.
Alright, stop the clock-who had two episodes in before Mary Sue accusations arrived?
Even I don't see that as being the case.
(and I've missed plenty so far with my flimsy viewings)
She my have experianced a chit-load of stuff, but she obviously didn't come out on top every time.
PERFECT thy name is not Mariner.
Sounds to me like her parents, being a part of Star Fleets Finest, have bailed her out of more than a few scrapes.
No, it's because she's a Mary Sue, Ms. Perfect and Great at Experienced at Everything with no flaws.
She "suffers" from being a lead character, but since she's a woman she's a Mary Sue.
Yeah, no, it's a terrible term with no real meaning. It pretty much puts a sign on an argument that says "Don't take me seriously. "It's not a term I like or use often, and it may not be a perfect fit, but it seems like it's the angle they're going with on her considering she gets to cause the problems AND be the solutions to them and have no repercussions for her reckless actions.
Heh ... well like Burnham she IS the Star of the show.It's not a term I like or use often, and it may not be a perfect fit, but it seems like it's the angle they're going with on her considering she gets to cause the problems AND be the solutions to them and have no repercussions for her reckless actions.
None of which makes her a Mary Sue. Mary Sue is a loaded and sexist term.I have no problem with her being a female character. I have a problem with her being a loud and obnoxious character who's a source of grief for the other main character and her creating the problems in the episode and be the solution to them and for her actions to have no repercussions.
If Mariner entered the Academy at 16, possibly finishes it in three years thanks to living on starships and Starfleet installations, she’s probably a year older than the rest, so 24.
That gives her five years of being in Starfleet. Plenty of time for an interesting amount of things to have happened.
...and for her actions to have no repercussions.
Kirk has done the same thing on many an occasion, why does he get a pass?
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