Star Trek IV Fans Only!

[urbandefault]

I saw it in the theater the week it was released. The Challenger accident was still fresh in everyone's minds, and the dedication was a nice touch.

From there it was just a lot of fun. Star Trek at its best, in my opinion. The reveal of the -A at the end brought applause from the whole audience.

 

[Sybok Was Wrong]

"Star Trek IV" is very well paced. The script is smart, sharp, and a good piece of entertainment with a pure 80'so vibe, that is in the funnest of 80's movies.

Although I love "VI" and have a big soft spot for "V"- I realize no film in this series is better than "The Voyage Home".

Many good memories of seeing this multiple times in theatres & even calling the phone # in the newspaper movie listings, listening to Spock.

 

[Stoo]

The VFX. I'm in the apparent minority that actually like the Rosenman score (spoken as one who loves his LoTR score)

Oh, I didn't know it was unpopular? Certainly a memorable main theme. Also some other fun sections like Chekov's run and the hospital chase that I guess we wouldn't have heard in other movies, but suit the more comedic tone here.

 

[CorporalCaptain]

The VFX. I'm in the apparent minority that actually like the Rosenman score (spoken as one who loves his LoTR score)

Oh, I didn't know it was unpopular? Certainly a memorable main theme. Also some other fun sections like Chekov's run and the hospital chase that I guess we wouldn't have heard in other movies, but suit the more comedic tone here.

It's not a definitive indication, which is why I said "apparent," but I've definitely seen more people on the board complain that it sounds like a LotR knock-off than who say that they actually like the score. Don't get me wrong, it clearly lifts from LotR, but I don't mind in the slightest.

 

[Greg Cox]

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While not my favorite movie it did give us this scene between Sarek and Spock. Which is one of my favorite in all of Star Trek.

It's been awhile since I've seen IV admittedly, but something just has to be said about how great Mark Lenard was. I rewatched the JJ movies and it's pretty clear how intentionally they wanted to evoke Journey to Babel and this scene in particular; and that Ben Cross repeatedly watched Lenard's scenes as research.

Also, it's funny how Lenard's Sarek made more appearances outsides of TOS than in the show itself.

Yeah, Lenard is always good as Sarek. It's a very subtle performance that is always true to itself. Even here, when Spock and Sarek are probably at their closest, Lenard doesn't overdo it. Sarek remains consistently in character: reserved, dignified, uncomfortable with outward expressions of emotion, but doing his best to relate to his half-human son--as far as he is capable of doing.

 

[RoJoHen]

TVH is hilarious. It's one of the few Trek movies that still makes me laugh out loud, particularly the exchanges between Kirk, Spock, and McCoy as their preparing for time warp.

Also, yes, as already mentioned, I love Sarek's involvement in this movie. I love the meeting at the beginning when they're discussing Genesis and Kirk's crimes against the Klingon Empire. Truthfully, I wish we could have seen more of those kinds of Klingons. By the time TNG and DS9 rolled around, the Klingons became a little too 2-dimensional for my tastes.

But yeah, Sarek is awesome. Behind Spock, he is absolutely the best Vulcan that any Trek series has produced.

 

[Greg Cox]

But yeah, Sarek is awesome. Behind Spock, he is absolutely the best Vulcan that any Trek series has produced.

I'm inclined to agree. Both he and Nimoy had the ability to let you glimpse the emotions roiling beneath the surface while still maintaining that stoic, Vulcan reserve.

 

[cgervasi]

Star Trek III was my first favorite Trek film and then TVH and kinda took it over as my favorite.

Being 39 years old, TVH represents Star Trek at its peak for me.

The cast was getting older, but still young enough. There was a new Enterprise. I just love it.

I'm 39 too, and I feel the same way.

I like Star Trek 4 b/c each member of the crew was responsible for an important piece of the puzzle. As they're landing, Kirk defines the three independent problems of the film (finding whales, repairing the ship's reactor, and constructing a tank for the whales) and assigns people to them. That was much better than having most of the regulars be there just for exposition.

 

[IrishNero]

Voyage home is my favourite. Strangely, I think its probably because it's the least science fictiony and the most gentle in terms of plot. It's essentially a story about humanity, friendship, animal welfare and nostalgia for a past that wasn't even the past at that point

I think "insurrection" was the TNG attempt at doing that kind of gentler film (but it didn't quite work for them)

I'm inclined to agree that Voyage Home was a great movie. The humor was the best and the humanity aspect was a good change (not that it hadn't been used prior to that time, but it was a little more bold). It's kind of campy now, but I can remember that I really enjoyed that movie when it hit the theatres.

 

[EnriqueH]

Star Trek III was my first favorite Trek film and then TVH and kinda took it over as my favorite.

Being 39 years old, TVH represents Star Trek at its peak for me.

The cast was getting older, but still young enough. There was a new Enterprise. I just love it.

I'm 39 too, and I feel the same way.

I like Star Trek 4 b/c each member of the crew was responsible for an important piece of the puzzle. As they're landing, Kirk defines the three independent problems of the film (finding whales, repairing the ship's reactor, and constructing a tank for the whales) and assigns people to them. That was much better than having most of the regulars be there just for exposition.

That's another thing I love about STIV and I always forget to mention it when I'm discussing the films: Every one is responsible for something.

 

[Dude111]

What is it about TVH that makes it your favorite?

It just seemed CLOSEST TO HOME!! (Being on EARTH like we are)

I love all 6 though!!

 

[RoJoHen]

But yeah, Sarek is awesome. Behind Spock, he is absolutely the best Vulcan that any Trek series has produced.

I'm inclined to agree. Both he and Nimoy had the ability to let you glimpse the emotions roiling beneath the surface while still maintaining that stoic, Vulcan reserve.

Exactly. I mean, Tuvok was fine, but I don't think enough was ever done with his personal life, so we very rarely got glimpses into the man behind the Vulcan. And T'Pol...well, she spent half the show high on drugs or raped by mind melds.

 

[Timewalker]

Some people give names to their cars and trucks. I gave names to my electric typewriter, my first computer, and my first printer.

The typewriter was Old Faithful. When Old Faithful finally bit the dust (I used it for many years, until it got to the point where it was impossible to fix and nobody was selling electric Smith Coronas anymore), that's when I got my Amiga 500 and a laser printer.

I named my computer and printer George and Gracie.

 

[xvicente]

What is it about TVH that makes it your favorite?

The question is, what's not to like in STIV?

 

[HIjol]

While the scene with Sarek and Spock was premium, my Fav of Favs is the "Do you like Italian?" interchange!

Second runner-up is the "LDS" scene. Both relatively short, but wonderful!

 

[EnriqueH]

Some people give names to their cars and trucks. I gave names to my electric typewriter, my first computer, and my first printer.

The typewriter was Old Faithful. When Old Faithful finally bit the dust (I used it for many years, until it got to the point where it was impossible to fix and nobody was selling electric Smith Coronas anymore), that's when I got my Amiga 500 and a laser printer.

I named my computer and printer George and Gracie.

What happened to the Smith Corona? Did you toss it into the garbage?

While the scene with Sarek and Spock was premium, my Fav of Favs is the "Do you like Italian?" interchange!

Second runner-up is the "LDS" scene. Both relatively short, but wonderful!

I love that "Italian" scene because Kirk and Spock, that is to say, Shatner and Nimoy finally got to play comedy off each other in a very simple yet effective way. I don't know that we ever saw it so brilliantly, simply and effectively before or since. And it brought their on-screen chemistry to the forefront.

 

[HIjol]

Some people give names to their cars and trucks. I gave names to my electric typewriter, my first computer, and my first printer.

The typewriter was Old Faithful. When Old Faithful finally bit the dust (I used it for many years, until it got to the point where it was impossible to fix and nobody was selling electric Smith Coronas anymore), that's when I got my Amiga 500 and a laser printer.

I named my computer and printer George and Gracie.

What happened to the Smith Corona? Did you toss it into the garbage?

Ah, how well I remember my old Sears Selectric. Who knew how much the technology would change?!

While the scene with Sarek and Spock was premium, my Fav of Favs is the "Do you like Italian?" interchange!

Second runner-up is the "LDS" scene. Both relatively short, but wonderful!

I love that "Italian" scene because Kirk and Spock, that is to say, Shatner and Nimoy finally got to play comedy off each other in a very simple yet effective way. I don't know that we ever saw it so brilliantly, simply and effectively before or since. And it brought their on-screen chemistry to the forefront.

Well said and glad you love it, too!

Star Trek. SO much more than just a show!

 

[Sparkle Fabulosa]

It is the first of the old Star Trek movies that I've seen but I'm sure it will be my favourite! I love stories about travelling into the past. I agree with what others have said as well. It's just so funny! My favourite is when Spock is swearing

Spock: They are not "the hell your whales." "The hell they did."

 

[eyeresist]

And I always thought it was interesting that the movie was so enjoyable and exciting, yet there's no photo torpedoes, phaser fights, fistfights, ships blowing out or anyone dying at all.

I think there were probably a number of off-screen deaths due to the whale probe.

 

[Cyke101]

photo torpedoes

...which, everyone knows, is Starfleet's successor weapon to the photo bomb.