Star Trek in Widescreen on CBS Action (UK)
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Actually, I would politely disagree with you there. I've been watching the boxset and I'm half way through season 4 and I think it's amazing what they've done with that show. But they did have more to work with, so TOS is a different story.
Another issue I noticed while prowling around my blu-rays is the compression. Instead of seemless branching they've opted to include two version of each episode at approx. 1.6gb each. If they'd used branching they could have doubled the bitrate (quality) of the episodes and still have the same number on each disc. Sigh.
Another issue I noticed while prowling around my blu-rays is the compression. Instead of seemless branching they've opted to include two version of each episode at approx. 1.6gb each. If they'd used branching they could have doubled the bitrate (quality) of the episodes and still have the same number on each disc. Sigh.
Have you read that from official sources or is that just what fans assume as the case, because when I look at the file structure, there are separate streams roughly the same size for both versions of episode.
If you think about it, the branching would be a nightmare due to each individual change and could screw up from player to player.
If you think about it, the branching would be a nightmare due to each individual change and could screw up from player to player.
“I’m so happy CBS incorporated the seamless branching onto the discs,” Okuda says.
http://www.homemediamagazine.com/blu-ray/star-trek-remastered-16484
http://www.homemediamagazine.com/blu-ray/star-trek-remastered-16484
Unless I'm really interpreting the data wrong, I'm afraid that's not the case. Pressing the "angle" button just swaps you between one stream and another. You're not watching the same video stream with alternative clips, you're watching a whole thing either remastered or original effects.
Pop any of your TOS:R BD's into a program like DVDfab and you can see there are two versions of each episode included.
I'm by no means an authority on this matter, but that's what I'm seeing with my own two eyes.
Pop any of your TOS:R BD's into a program like DVDfab and you can see there are two versions of each episode included.
I'm by no means an authority on this matter, but that's what I'm seeing with my own two eyes.
Watch it on blu ray, and turn on the zoom function on your TV.
The X-Files was filmed to be "safe" in the Academy aspect ratio or some wider aspect ratio some time in the future (which is now). The only shots that I found look terrible are those with CGI effects that they up-scaled from standard definition. Everything else looks brilliant.
Kor
I'm no authority either, but I believe that's the disc structure just fooling the program into displaying each episode separately. I ripped a single episode and the final file-size was 8gb. The disc has four episodes on it, which would equal 64gb in total if they were all on there twice without branching.
Also, the ripped raw files are all the individual pieces of the episode. (Each part that would be different for TOSR is a separate piece.)
Somebody as well-connected as Mike Okuda would know if the discs used seamless branching. If he says they do, it's pretty safe to assume that they in fact do.
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I agree, it would've been better to simply leaves those seasons alone when it came to close ups shots. We've been accustom to seeing IMAX images be cropped and then transitioned to another format with Chris Nolan's The Dark Knight, I can't see why FOX just proceed with the process that way.
Sometimes older US TV shows, particularly movies, were filmed with a movie aspect ratio in mind. This was done so they could be edited and released theatrically overseas. One particularly good example I know of is the original TV movie of Salem's Lot (1979). The two part miniseries was edited into a 2-hour theatrical movie and released in Europe. If you watch the DVD version of the miniseries enlarged to fill a 16 x 9 screen, it looks great. Nothing is lost in the cropped out areas. I cottoned on to this during one of my regular Halloween viewings after I got an HD TV. I noticed that the titles were carefully concentrated in the vertical center of the screen. I tried enlarging the frame and, voila!, the titles were perfectly composed in the frame. I only wish the would release an HD version formatted for 16 x 9...
Weren't some movies filmed in 1.33:1 that far back?
Everything before 1953.
All movies between 1932 and 1952 were filmed in 1.375:1 (abbreviated as 1.37:1, and the soundtrack slightly narrowed it to 1.33:1), known as the "Academy Ratio."
Kor
Lots of haircuts in that trailer.
STAR TREK was made 4:3 and any attempt at widescreen will always compromise something. Embrace 4:3 and be happy.
You could conceivably make 16:9 versions by doing the pan-and-scan mentioned earlier in the thread (which would involve decapitation), and then cut and paste the missing original top and bottom content to create a true 16:9 image. There would be no butchering of the original image. You pan, scan, cut and paste. It would take work, but it isn't impossible. Hell, I saw someone (an amateur) make a 2:35 cut of a scene from Snow White (filmed in 1.37) without any cropping done.
That, in itself, is butchering.
I'm not even sure what all that means. Paste the missing material to where?
How? I'm assuming by either stretching the image or by creating new material. Because those are the only two methods that could possibly be used if cropping is off the table.
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