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Star Trek III: Sarek's Question About Spock's Katra

Denise

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When Sarek questions Kirk about Spock's katra, he says that his future--all of what Spock was and all that he could have been--was lost with his katra. What could he have meant about Spock's future after death? Do the Vulcans believe in some kind of reincarnation? If his katra had not been refused with his body, could it have been installed in someone else's?
 
When Sarek questions Kirk about Spock's katra, he says that his future--all of what Spock was and all that he could have been--was lost with his katra. What could he have meant about Spock's future after death? Do the Vulcans believe in some kind of reincarnation? If his katra had not been refused with his body, could it have been installed in someone else's?

The script (and novelization) elaborated on this a bit, and we've seen bits and pieces of what was intended in ENT and ST09. The idea was that Spock's Katra would be put into storage in the Hall of Ancient Thought in Mount Seleya, which he could be consulted and communed with by future generations of Vulcans, but the process of "interring" it required not just Spock's spirit (residing in McCoy), but also his corpse.
 
The original TOS novelizations (expanded on by Diane Duane in Spock's World, Lost Years, etc) did better than Enterprise with the "katric ark" but they had globes full in the "Hall of Ancient Thought" on Mount Seleya some of which included old Kolinahr Masters through history and Spock being a relative unique half Vulcan half human and heir of Surak's house through T-Pau would have merited a place there.

Imagine the Sargon globe but full of famous Vulcans through history that could be reached through Mind Melds with the orbs.
 
Kirk, Spock, and McCoy were so close that Spock confided in them about pon farr and gave them a rare invitation to his ceremonial wedding. Yet he never bothered to tell either of them about the Vulcan katra and what they were supposed to do if he ever died.
 
What with the Enterprise's warp engines offline, and everyone facing destruction via Genesis Wave, there simply wasn't enough time for Spock to do an Oh, by the way...
 
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Kirk, Spock, and McCoy were so close that Spock confided in them about pon farr and gave them a rare invitation to his ceremonial wedding. Yet he never bothered to tell either of them about the Vulcan katra and what they were supposed to do if he ever died.
They had to pry it out of him after he threw a bowl of soup against the wall and was... terse in his request. Then he mumbled about birds and bees and Vulcan biology... before the invitation.
 
Kirk, Spock, and McCoy were so close that Spock confided in them about pon farr and gave them a rare invitation to his ceremonial wedding. Yet he never bothered to tell either of them about the Vulcan katra and what they were supposed to do if he ever died.
Probably, he felt absolutely certain he'd outlive both Kirk and Bones. What with the Captain beaming alone to dangerous planets, and McCoy trying every new experimental cure on himself first...
 
I wonder if there's restricted access to the Hall of Ancient Thought, or if any Vulcan can freely go there to commune with the katras. It might get pretty crowded with everyone wanting to go and learn from all that ancient logical wisdom.

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^I’ve wondered about eligibility to be interred there. Spock was from an elite family, and personally renowned, but Mount Seleya hardly looked big enough to have an Ark for every Vulcan going back thousands of years.

Do average Vulcans not even bother to pass on their Katras when they die, or are there smaller Halls, and the Hall of Ancient Thought is like Arlington or Westminster Abbey? Maybe there are smaller mind-cemeteries around Vulcan, or families keep their own Katric Arks for their ancestors at home like an urn on the mantle.

That could be a premise for the Vulcan version of Bones or Cold Case, Vulcan investigators trying to find the Katric Arks of witnesses to crimes or archeological mysteries in old museums or family closets.
 
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