Star Trek III - great rewatch value

Discussion in 'Star Trek Movies I-X' started by xvicente, Jun 2, 2013.

  1. BillJ

    BillJ Fleet Admiral Admiral

    I also rate The Search for Spock above The Wrath of Khan. :techman:
  2. Galactic Alignment

    Galactic Alignment Commander Red Shirt

    Aug 22, 2001
    Definitely! Very influential on the rest of the franchise, moreso than any other Trek film before or since. TSFS...

    1. Introduced the notion to Trek that the hero's ship is fair game for destruction during an adventure, but don't worry, it'll be replaced in the next film (or next episode, in the final season of Deep Space Nine).

    2. Was the debut of the Excelsior, which represented 90% of Starfleet vessels in the TNG era.

    3. Began the trend of the Klingons being the most over-used alien race in Trek lore.

    4. Unveiled the Klingon Bird of Prey, which became at least as common in the Klingon space armada as the Excelsior did in Starfleet's, in multiple sizes, even! Also, the Romulans were no longer the alien race with the cloaking attack vessels.

    5. Featured that-there Shroomdock, showing use in no uncertain terms that Starfleet's main base was situated in orbit around Earth.

    6. Had the heroes no only disobeying orders from Starfleet Command, but also becoming outlaws. (Don't worry though everything will turn out fine, and their illegal activities will have saved the day!)
  3. tmosler

    tmosler Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

    Apr 6, 2012
    They recently added the blu ry version of star trek 3 on netflix so i was able to watch it again and you know what i actually enjoyed it even more then my first viewing. Theres a lot to love about the film. My top star trek movie lists now reads
    Star trek voyage home( the comedy and characer interactions are my favorite thing about trek and this did it wonderfuly)

    Star trek first contact

    Star trek undiscovered county (for some reason i just love this one the musc fits in perfectly)

    Star trek wrath of kahn ( loved it but was a little disapointed after hearing about how great it was but like it better after more viewings)

    Star trek search for spock
  4. Dart

    Dart Commodore Commodore

    Sep 29, 2001
    Co. Kerry. Ireland
    I always love the space dock scene. It's a visual reminder of the grandness of the federation and indeed the whole Star Trek universe.
  5. CaptainBearclaw

    CaptainBearclaw Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

    Jul 17, 2013
    not valid
    I don't understand a lot of the Star Trek III hate. It's a damn solid film. It provides nice drama, good characters, and possibly the best resurrection of a popular character ever. I personally like the whole Genesis trilogy, but not Star Trek IV as much as the first two, though, but for my own reasons.
  6. BillJ

    BillJ Fleet Admiral Admiral

    Watching The Search for Spock on SyFy right now, even though I own it on Blu-ray. It really is an underrated movie.
  7. Therin of Andor

    Therin of Andor Admiral Admiral

    Jun 30, 2004
    New Therin Park, Andor (via Australia)
    I don't recall any hate for it in its day. TMP had polarized fan opinions, and ST II seemed to appeal more to the ones who'd been disappointed by TMP but had not yet stomped away from fandom in anger.

    ST III was great fun, even though Australia had to wait six months attempting to avoid spoilers. Down Under, Sydney fans had a very busy couple of weeks attending two free gala previews in costume and then opening night.

    Then came the popular success of ST IV and it was probably about then (and definitely confirmed by ST V) that someone suggested the "even-numbered Trek films are best" truism. And even people who barely remembered ST III began to diss it.
  8. Peach Wookiee

    Peach Wookiee Cuddly Mod of Doom Moderator

    May 12, 2001
    Peach Wookiee
    I love III, myself. :)
  9. Kinokima

    Kinokima Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

    Jul 2, 2013
    I obviously wasn't there when III came out (well I was but 2 years old) but if there was hate for it, I doubt they would have allowed Nimoy to direct the next one.
  10. Kinokima

    Kinokima Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

    Jul 2, 2013
  11. publiusr

    publiusr Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

    Mar 22, 2010
    In some ways, I find it better than even ST II
  12. TenLubak

    TenLubak Commander Red Shirt

    May 10, 2003
    Baltimore MD USA
    I actually saw III before II and liked III Very much. I thought it was a fun movie, and had that 80s action movie feel that I liked as a kid. Its funny because I picked that one out at the Blockbuster thinking that was the one where spock died. The Search for Spock, well he must have died right? He did, turns out in the very first scene of the movie.
  13. Roboturner913

    Roboturner913 Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

    Jan 8, 2011
    Anytime I want to show off my home theater I put on the Enterprise self-destruct scene. BOOOOM!!!!!!!

    Of course I am just a little too young to remember because I was only 4 or 5 years old when it came out. But that must have been shocking to a lot of people. I remember how torn up I was about the Enterprise-D in Generations, and that's despite kind of hearing rumors in the months leading up to the movie it might happen. I bet that wasn't the case in 1984.
  14. RyanKCR

    RyanKCR Vice Admiral Admiral

    Mar 26, 2001
    RyanKCR is living here in Allentown
    It was in the trailer.
  15. otomo

    otomo Lieutenant Junior Grade Red Shirt

    Jun 27, 2013
    III to me has some good, and some bad. I thought this marked a turn where the characters started to become parodies of themselves, rather than playing it straight. Which I'm fine with in STIV, but that shift I feel was detrimental to the series as a whole.

    Thought the "no, you can't have a ship and go out to this classified area you were just at" made little sense, given how important Kirk was to the federation at the time. It was easy to explain their situation to the brass, given McCoy's stuff going on. So the stealing the ship and sabotaging the excelsior portion of this felt a bit cheesy to me.

    The main conflict still holds up well. I like genesis, it's a good sci-fi theme. I like David and Carol. The enterprise destruction was cool. Tough time buying Back to the Future guy as a klingon (I have no idea why his name is eluding me, and lazy to look it up). Love how David's arc played out.

    End scene where Spock returns sans memories is pretty touching.

    So good and bad. Like a 6.5-7/10 for me. I skip it on most rewatches, but don't skip it ALL the time (like V, Insurrection, Nemesis)
  16. Maurice

    Maurice Vice Admiral Admiral

    Oct 17, 2005
    Walking distance from Starfleet HQ
    Writing "(I have no idea why his name is eluding me, and lazy to look it up)" is actually more effort than Googling "st3 klingon captain", so you did more work being "lazy" than if you'd actually looked it up. Congrats!
  17. chevron

    chevron Lieutenant Red Shirt

    Jul 18, 2007
    Of course at the time Kirk asked for the Enterprise he had no idea that Spock's body had regenerated on Genesis. All he actually had to do was bring McCoy to Vulcan so Sarek could get Spock's katra.

    Unless of course there was a deleted line where Sarek said "oh, by the way, we need his body too."

    Mmm... Sarek did say "why did you leave him on Genesis?" implying that they shouldn't have left his body there... I might just have invalidated my earlier point...
  18. The Old Mixer

    The Old Mixer I am the modman, goo goo goo joob Moderator

    Feb 4, 2002
    Sitting in a nutmeg garden waiting for the sun
    Spock's katra, via McCoy, also asked why Kirk left Spock on Genesis. It's possible that Kirk was making a leap of faith based on that.
  19. Maj. Kira Nerys

    Maj. Kira Nerys Ensign Red Shirt

    Jul 24, 2013
    McCoy was also trying to get a ship to the Mutara Sector before they found out what was wrong with him and Kirk had considerable knowledge of the Genesis effect and Sarek didn't go into any details - he just said they should bring Spock to Vulcan without defining if he meant his body or his katra, if I remember correctly. He probably just thought, Spock - that is McCoy in that context - wants to go to the Mutara sector and then to Mount Seleya, Sarek wants to have him on Vulcan. Well, let's go to Vulcan and do the Mutara sector on the way.
  20. Peach Wookiee

    Peach Wookiee Cuddly Mod of Doom Moderator

    May 12, 2001
    Peach Wookiee
    @otomo: It's Christopher Lloyd.