Star Trek III - great rewatch value

Discussion in 'Star Trek Movies I-X' started by xvicente, Jun 2, 2013.

  1. Candlelight

    Candlelight Admiral Admiral

    Apr 12, 2000
    New Zealand
    I like this movie because it was a diversion from Wrath of Khan, it didn't try and follow in its footsteps. Great music score, great character development and an explosive end for the 'old reliable'.

    I think it was also my first Trek movie. I have memories of walking into the lounge and seeing my dad and brother watching it on TV. After this I discovered the TV series and wondered why the Enterprise looked different...

    Hell, it was very likely my very first Trek experience.
  2. RandyS

    RandyS Vice Admiral Admiral

    Nov 9, 2007
    Agreed, although I love all the movies' scores to one degree or another.

    And 3 will always be my favorite for one reason: It gave us Robin Curtis. For that alone, the movie should always be highly regarded.
  3. Lance

    Lance Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

    May 9, 2012
    The Enterprise's Restroom
    I think TWOK is quite self-contained, despite all the sequel hooks right near the end. It can definitely be watched as it's own standalone thing. TSFS on the other hand is very much tied to the events of the movie before it, and by extension it still hasn't wrapped things up by the end, necessitating a further sequel to finish off the story.

    On some levels TSFS and TVH are more closely linked than TWOK and TSFS, even though TSFS is a direct follow-up to TWOK.
  4. Captain Clark Terrell

    Captain Clark Terrell Commodore Commodore

    Jun 9, 2013
    The Captain's Table
    I agree. The shot of Spock's tube on Genesis is a nice teaser, but the film certainly could be viewed alone and enjoyed just as much without having seen the two subsequent movies.

  5. chevron

    chevron Lieutenant Red Shirt

    Jul 18, 2007
    TSFS is a big favourite of mine. Lots of things I lkie about it. For example the way it links back to TWOK with the line "the Kobayashi Maru has set sail for the promised land." And at the end they reverse the line about "the needs of the many". It's a very good script because it says you can't get something for nothing and to get Spock back they loose David and the Enterprise and get exiled basically.

    And they blew up the Enterprise! Back in 1984 the movie never came to my cinema so I made do with the novel version. I remember sitting up in bed late at night, probably thinking "that's enough reading for one night, time to put the light out," and then I got to the bit where Kirk orders the ship to blow up.

    Remember there was only one Enterprise up to that point. (No bloody A B C or D as Scotty would say.) One Enterprise. THE Enterprise. And they blew it up.

    The effects are wonderful. Arriving at Spacedock, stealing the Enterprise, the BOP and the Enterprise blowing up.

    The "stealing the Enterprise" sequence is very well put togeather.

    Yes, my favourite odd-numbered Trek movie, any probably my third or fourth favourite overall.
  6. publiusr

    publiusr Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

    Mar 22, 2010
    In some ways I liked it better than Wrath of Khan. It was more up-beat. With ST IV, the most accessible Trek movie to laymen pre-JJ, the Spock Trilogy was better balanced than the Star Wars trilogy. Return of the Jedi being a huge let-down.
  7. Gojira

    Gojira Commodore Commodore

    Oct 15, 2008
    Stompin' on Tokyo
    I nver understood the negative reaction Trek III. It has so many exciting scenes and was evrything the original series presented. Spock's mind is inside McCoy's head, he needs to be taken back to Vulcan, Spock's body has been re-generated, Kirk and crew steal the enterprise, fight Klingons, blow up the much great stuff, what is not to like?
  8. Kinokima

    Kinokima Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

    Jul 2, 2013
    As with every Trek movie there are things I like and things I dislike (some of the things I dislike actually started in WOK)

    What I disliked
    Kirk's Son as quickly as he is introduced he is killed off. The whole thing just felt really cheap to me.
    Saavik (don't care who is playing her the character doesn't work for me)
    Don't like the hokey sci-fi in this movie and the way Spock was brought back to life.

    What I liked
    Sarek, I actually saw him first in this movie (not the TV series) and I was so impressed with his performance
    I also liked the little we got Dame Judith Anderson
    Spock's Katra in McCoy and the many scenes involving this (also McCoy's speech about not wanting to lose Spock)
    The enterprise scene
    The strong themes of friendship in this film. I am in the process of reading Nimoy's autobiography and he used this quote from Henry V to explain the themes of the film and I think they sum up the movie perfectly and it is this theme that I really love about the movie.

    "We few, we happy few, we band of brothers, For he today who sheds his blood with me shall be my brother"

    LOKAI of CHERON Commodore Commodore

    LOVE TSFS, my fourth favourite in fact.
  10. MacLeod

    MacLeod Admiral Admiral

    Mar 8, 2001
    Great Britain
    Perhaps part of why it works, is that it is a different style of film from TWOK.

    And as others have mentioned ne of the best scenes is when they borrow the Enterprise.

    "Don't call me tiny"

    MOSUGOJI Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

    Mar 31, 2004
    Central NY
    The only real issue I had with ST3 was the additional unexplained extensive battle damage on the starboard side and other untouched areas of the Enterprise. I think this was done by ILM as "artistic license" to reinforce the concept that the Enterprise was too old and beat up to be repaired and was due for decommissioning. Not to mention for the shocked reaction shot from Janice Rand in space dock. Though in retrospect if Morrow had given Scotty the time and resources to properly repair the Enterprise Spock would have been dead again by then since Genesis wouldn't have held together for that long.
  12. Therin of Andor

    Therin of Andor Admiral Admiral

    Jun 30, 2004
    New Therin Park, Andor (via Australia)
    Yeah, but readers of the comic saw all the extra adventures the ship had between ST II and III.

    My most memorable aspect of ST III: I'd only just moved into a new flat and my friends congregated at my place to get dressed for the gala premiere. As we were nearing the cinema, I realised that I'd left the iron on.

    It was very hard to sit through the volcanic destruction of the Genesis Planet knowing what might be happening back at my new flat.

    Star Trek III: The Search for Spock premiere by Therin of Andor, on Flickr

    MOSUGOJI Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

    Mar 31, 2004
    Central NY
    I've heard of the extra comic book adventures between ST2 and 3 where extra battles took place and resulted in the damage. Can someone give me some sort of synopsis of these battles? I never saw the comics back in the 80s when they came out.
  14. Zippo and Flask

    Zippo and Flask Lieutenant Red Shirt

    Apr 3, 2013
    I am a big fan of John Laroqette in Night Court and I never realized that was him as Maltz!

    I too enjoy ST III. I know it supposedly follows the odd-numbered movie curse, so for many years I always felt like I was supposed to dislike it for this reason. But when I gained the maturity in life to have the courage to like/dislike things because of my own preferences, rather than what was vogue, I could never find a reason to dislike the film. As others have pointed out II, III, and IV make a great stand-alone trilogy to watch together as a marathon, and it's fairly easy so to do. You don't know how many times I put on II to just watch the opening scene and then find myself 5 hours later having rewatched these three films.
  15. Therin of Andor

    Therin of Andor Admiral Admiral

    Jun 30, 2004
    New Therin Park, Andor (via Australia)
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  16. BillJ

    BillJ Fleet Admiral Admiral

    Jan 30, 2001
    Same here. :techman:
  17. Use of Time

    Use of Time Commodore Commodore

    Jul 25, 2012
    Va. Beach, VA
    It is easily one of my favorites. Great rewatch value.
  18. JarodRussell

    JarodRussell Vice Admiral Admiral

    Jul 2, 2009
    Trek III is the film that expanded the universe the most, and it has the grandest scope. So many new ships. So many new characters. Movie Klingons for the first time. It's also the most daring. Killing David, destroying the Enterprise, turning the crew into renegades. And James Horner's soundtrack! The soundtrack!

    It also successfully merges the TMP style with the TOS style.

    It's the best one, together with TWOK.
  19. Opus

    Opus Commodore Commodore

    Jun 20, 2003
    Bloom County
    TSFS is by far my favorite of the TOS movies. I love the character moments throughout.
  20. USS Intrepid

    USS Intrepid Commodore Commodore

    Nov 15, 1999
    Dundee, Scotland, UK
    I love Star Trek 3. In fact, I like it better than Wrath of Khan. More than any of the other TOS cast movies, this one just hit all the right marks for me. I loved the way the relationships between the crew were portrayed, and it was just generally fun.