Star Trek : Generations ( am I the only one? )

[dauntless111]

Am I the only one who thinks that Star Trek : Generations was by far the greatest off all the Star Trek Films ?

I honestly think the whole Odd-Even number thing is bull !

Star Trek II is amazing too but I reckon generations is the winner

These are my reasons

Acting :

There are numerous standout performances in this movie, most notably from Patrick Stewart as Picard.

My favourite scenes in no particular order...

> When Picard finds out that his nephew and brother have been burned to death in a fire:
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The moments with Troi in his quarters as he looks through his photo album and thinks about all the things his nephew will miss is brilliant and charged with emotion. The contrast between this and when he has to snap back into the role of captain as the Armagosa star explodes right outside his window is great.

> Bridge Scene:
The short scene where he shouts at Will on the bridge to "just do it!" is right out of the norm for Star Trek, especially TNG.

> Armagosa Star:
There is a great music build up as the viewscreen is filled with a magnified image of the Armagosa star, Worf explains that Data and Geordi are not on board and the tension builds with the music in such a way that I have never seen on any other Star Trek film, magnificent directing by David Carson for this one.
Soran and Picard in 10 Forward:

> 10 Forward:
Soran pleads with Picard to let him back aboard the research station to continue his work, "time is the fire in which we burn" says Malcolm McDowell as Soran, which is met with a terrified look from Picard, the subsequent looks from Guinan and Soran with the music is beautiful.

> Bird of Prey Decloaks:
Normally when a ship suddenly decloaks the usual dialogue is "raise shields" "yellow alert" etc. But given the ever increasing complex situation at this stage in the film and Picards emotional state he simply reponds with "what?"

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> Swept up by the Energy Ribbon on Veridian III
The look on Sorans face and the silhouette of him reaching for the sky in desperation as the ribbon approaches, no one can tell me that this is not a classic moment in Trek history.

> Enterprise B caught in the Nexus:
"all engines full reverse!"

> The external shot of Scotty, Chekov and Harriman as they stand in the damaged section of the Enterprise B as it flies overhead is genius FX work by ILM.

> Picard with children in the Nexus. Picard always hated kids and here we see that his ultimate ideal is to have them after all, brilliant character development, better than any other Trek film.

Visual FX by ILM.

The Visual effects in this film are far superior to subsequent installments of Trek movies, with perhaps the exception of the ramming scene in Nemesis. This film was made in 1994 and yet shots such as when the Klingon torpedoes pass through the Enterprise shields and rip into the hull are beautifully crafted and intricate.

Other stand out FX.

> No doubt the Enterprise D crash scene takes the cake, amazing photography and high speed filming.

> Veridian III explodes, one of the best planetary explosions ever, it even has the athmosphere being ripped off and underground pressure explosions, intricate to say the least.

> Armagosa spherical blast wave, rips apart the station and the Enterprise warps away. Brilliant!

> The final shot, a Star Trek movie should always end with a shot like this, 3 federation Starships warp away for the last scene

 

[Alidar Jarok]

Moving to Trek Movies

 

[Shieldsdown]

Yes!

 

[Ryan Thomas Riddle]

Correction:
Star Trek: Generations was the best TNG television two-parter. Too bad, it was put on the big screen.

 

[The Wormhole]

I wouldn't say it's the best Trek movie period. Though I do think it is the best TNG movie. People are a bit too harsh on it.

Points of criticism I do agree with:

-It is essentially an overblown TV episode. It's still enjoyable, but a movie should feel like a movie, not an episode.

-The Enterprise D was destroyed way too easily. I don't care if the Klingons could see through Geordi's Visor, the Enterprise D should have been able to put up more of a fight. But I do agree, from a visual effects perspective, the crash of the saucer is spectular. It still rivals most things done with CGI.

-Despite all the build up and hype, Kirk and Picard teaming up was pretty low key.

-Why was the Enterprise D so dark?

These don't really bother me that much. Generations is a remarkably entertaining movie, and the only TNG movie I can actually sit and enjoy. First Contact is overrated, Insurrection isn't really all that good, and Nemesis can only be enjoyed if you don't think about it. But Generations, while not as good as such movies as TWOK and TUC is still a damn fine way to spend two hours, IMO.

 

[dauntless111]

yeah I figured many people considered this as a big 2 parter and not a movie. And I definitely dont think it is perfect, but c'mon, farm ore happened with our beloved TNG crew in this Film than any subequent films,

First Contact To me was a bit of a Episode and a childrens one at that.

Insurrection was just Pants!

and nenesis was good but incredibly flawed. All that crap with data and b4 was rubbish plus the so called emotional ending when data was killed was completely wrong! Geordie should have been in the spotlight for that scene, they were best of pals.

Anyway, the mixture of Acting, lighting, fx, bad guy, and quirkiness make generations for me, still the best film of them all.

 

[DanStro]

Yes, I think you may be the only one. But be proud of your uniqueness.

 

[Phantassm]

Yes-you're the only one. It was mediocre at best.

 

[Seven of Five]

It was the most Next Generation-esque of the TNG films, and I do think it's somewhat underrated, but it's a couple of rewrites away from being finished IMO. I love the first half of the film, but for me it completely falls apart when the ancient Bird of Prey takes out the Ent-D, and then of course Picard and Kirk go horseback riding after making an omlette together.

 

[Peach Wookiee]

Everyone has their opinion. I liked Generations, but I loved FC.

 

[cultcross]

I did enjoy Generations, it certainly trumps Insurrection and Nemesis.
However, I feel First Contact is much much better. I enjoyed that film an awful lot, its the only Trek film that really still excites me on re-watching. Right from that epic pull-back from Picard's eye, I just love it.

 

[startrekfiero]

For TNG based movies, First Contact totally rocked IMO.
There are very few ST movies I can sit down and watch over again but FC is one of the few.
Nemesis was another great opportunity lost for Star Trek fans. Fans really want to see a great space battle with the Enterprise against the Romulans or whoever and once again we got totally screwed in that regard among many other bad parts and plot holes in Nemesis.
Killing Data was a bad move as well. Worst case, they could have left it that maybe Data had actually programed B4 to go in his place.
Of course they still could pull that off I suppose...

I liked Generations but two major problems I had with it were:
1) When Soran fired the missile at the planet it took way too little time to actually reach it.
2) Kirks death, even though they went and re-shot the scene to try and make it better, was still lame.

If you wanted to argue that any of the TNG based movies were more like a fancy episode thrown on the big screen, I would argue that Insurrection fills that description as much or more than any other.

I will agree that Generations did have some great moments, but for a solid overall good TNG movie, FC holds that for me hands down.

 

[Kirkman1987]

good, but I think the original concept was far better.....

And I agree on the odd numbered thing being false.....Star Trek III is amazing, and I think V and VII are good enough. Can't say much for insurrection.....I like it, but it's my least favorite trek movie.