Star Trek: Generations — Alternative Uniforms

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Would you have liked to see the new uniforms?

  1. Yes, most definitely!

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  2. No, they're horrid.

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  1. DGCatAniSiri

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    I think I read somewhere that they were originally redesigning the uniforms because they thought that the uniforms from the show wouldn't film well and show signs of obviously being costumes or something.

    At any rate, I love the FC uniforms, so I'm ultimately pleased with the way things turned out.
     
  2. ALF

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    Well, they kind of exist as dress uniforms in my mind. They look almost the same.

    It was kind of funny that the Playmates action figures that year came out all non-canon!
     
  3. Bla1n3

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    While I happen to like what I see with these sketches, it's a question of how well they would appear as the real deal, and I'm not so sure if they would be worthy of being uniforms. In my opinion, the best outfits I've seen are in Andrew Probert's earlier sketches of the Enterprise-D bridge/battlebridge concepts, and later in some of his conceptual Galaxy-class interiors for the on-line game that he drew. http://www.ottens.co.uk/forgottentrek/images/TNG/Aquatics.jpg
    http://www.ottens.co.uk/forgottentrek/images/TNG/M_STtng01.jpg
     
  4. BillJ

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    Don't know...

    Without seeing them on actual film it's tough to make an assessment.
     
  5. Jack Bauer

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    The concept art looks horrid. Maybe it would've looked better live. Or maybe worse.
     
  6. Ryann866

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    There is a photo of one of the unused GEN uniform collars in one of the big TNG Garfield-Stevens books -- The Continuting Mission or Where No One Has Gone Before, I'm not sure. Outside of that and a grainy Youtube clip of the Geordi scene where he is wearing it (and only in one brief shot, lying down) I don't think there are any photos of these uniforms actually being worn (besides the action figures).

    I remember when TNG first was being promoted and that "smoky bridge" cast photo came out -- the 1st season spandex uniforms just looked so advanced and sleek along with the new set and the Okudagrams... it was like Star Trek had really jumped light years -- but it was still clearly Star Trek. By the end of TNG and with DS9 and VOY everything, costumes included, seemed so bland and recycled.

    When First Contact photos came out -- the change in uniforms seemed cool -- darker, to go along with the theme of that film. Then when they showed up on the season premiere of DS9 BEFORE the film came out, it was already old hat.

    I wished they had kept the DS9 jumpsuits in use as a kind of Class B utility uniform on starbases and such and had everyone else in the standard uniforms.
     
  7. Potemkin_Prod

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    All I get are 403 Forbiddens...
     
  8. Admiral Buzzkill

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    I'd rather have seen these uniforms than those dingy grey FC outfits.
     
  9. Potemkin_Prod

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    Now that someone gave me a pointer of how to view the pics, I'd say they're somewhat reminiscent of what the crew of the Nostromo wore in ALIEN.
     
  10. milo bloom

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    I'm usually a fan of alternate uniforms (there was a thread recently in TOS about some alternate female uniforms that were just fantastic), but these things were just awful. I was big into collecting the figures when GEN came out, and I couldn't fathom why they were in those bizarre looking uniforms. I probably thought they were production errors on the part of the figure manufacturers.
     
  11. StalwartUK

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    Those uniforms look dreadful. Thank god they stuck with the TNG/DS9 ones.
     
  12. JarodRussell

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    Hard to tell what these things would have looked like from that weird sketch. Can't imagine Patrick Stewart running around with a wasp waist and Schwarzenegger shoulders.
     
  13. CobraCommander

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    I didn't like how they had a mis-match of uniforms on Gen. It seemed unprofessional for both a starfleet crew and a Trek film to have no standardized clothing. Lastly, the show ended just before this film came out. I don't understand why they changed the red alert chime, com badges, and threw in the mis-matched uniforms. I really didn't like the grey suits that came out in FC. Cobra
     
  14. GeorgeKirk

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    They should have darkened the colors a bit and gotten rid of the sleeve stripes. BTW, has anyone noticed how similar the mens' uniform jacket is to the officers' duty uniforms on BSG?
     
  15. Dukhat

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    I agree. They should have used the new uniforms for the simple fact that they had already paid for and created them; the line about not wanting too many "new" things in the movie pretty much falls flat when there was already so much new stuff. What's one more thing going to hurt? And changing into the DS9 uniforms inexplicably halfway through the movie was just jarring, especially since the whole point of the original DS9 uniforms was to differentiate space staion personnel from starship personnel.
     
  16. GeorgeKirk

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    I don't agree with the idea that mixing the different types of uniforms was a bad thing. All the TOS films had crewpeople walking around in different types of uniforms. Look at TMP; there were like 3 or 4 variations of the officer's uniform, and nobody's head exploded from uniform overload.

    What really bothers me is that both the standard TNG outfit and the DS9 togs were television-quality costumes, made on a television budget and designed to look good on a television screen. When you put them up on a huge movie screen, they just looked cheap. It was especially ridiculous that they were too cheap to give Jonathan Frakes and LeVar Burton custom-made costumes, and instead just put them into ill-fitting ones made for Avery Brooks and Colm Meaney. Maybe, maybe on a TV show you could get away with that, but not in a movie.
     
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  17. Xavier_Storma

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    Agreed. I remember seeing it as a 12 year old in cinemas in early 1995 (it was released in Spring 1995 here in Germany)... being a huge fan of TNG, it looked huge, epic... larger than life. Exactly what I expected from a movie transition to the big screen.
    I actually liked the TNG/DS9 mix of uniforms.
     
  18. Stardate

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    I hated the TNG/DS9 mix of uniforms so unprofessional for a motion pitcure so i like this over them..I just bugged me when LeVar Burton needed to wear borrowed DS9 suit from Colm Meany:wtf:
     
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  20. Ozmar

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    I don't think Riker's uniform was that ill-fitting.
     
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