Star Trek Futures Folds

[seigezunt]

http://www.startrekfutures.com/blog

Well, that was too bad. I was kind of hoping that one would take off. Interesting concept.

 

[Maurice]

Sadly, it's easy to announce a project. Completing one is another matter. People are too quick to promote something long before it's a sure thing, so most of them end up in the dustbin as little more than another concept.

 

[Borgminister]

Real life trumps pet projects, that's a fact. Best of luck to you. And if you come back, you will inevitably have to stand the heat in the kitchen, or stay in the living room.

 

[USS Intrepid]

Reading the announcement on his page saddened me. Here's wishing him all success in his future endeavours.

 

[Barbreader]

Some perspective: I have been following Star Trek Fan Films and film groups for just over six years now.

The people who decide to make a film who are least likely to make one are people who have no film experience, no professional show business experience, and are not acting with a pre-organized group, such as an existing Star Trek Fan Club.

The people MOST likely to succeed in making a film have film-making experience, have made a previous Star Trek fan film, and have money and control over their time.

My guess is that less than one in four of the people in the first group ever produce a film. Some of those that do, do so after assisting another group and learning the ropes.

This sounded like a cool project. But I've learned not to get overly attached to planned films from individuals who have not produced a prior Star Trek Fan film. Which is not to say this wouldn't have been an awesome film, had it been made. I have listed it as long term hold or abandon. But not every abandon film stays abandon. Yorktown didn't. You just never know.

 

[Karzak]

Some perspective: I have been following Star Trek Fan Films and film groups for just over six years now.

The people who decide to make a film who are least likely to make one are people who have no film experience, no professional show business experience, and are not acting with a pre-organized group, such as an existing Star Trek Fan Club.

The people MOST likely to succeed in making a film have film-making experience, have made a previous Star Trek fan film, and have money and control over their time.

My guess is that less than one in four of the people in the first group ever produce a film. Some of those that do, do so after assisting another group and learning the ropes.

This sounded like a cool project. But I've learned not to get overly attached to planned films from individuals who have not produced a prior Star Trek Fan film. Which is not to say this wouldn't have been an awesome film, had it been made. I have listed it as long term hold or abandon. But not every abandon film stays abandon. Yorktown didn't. You just never know.

And yet you know nothing about filmmaking, a statement you've made yourself many times:

http://www.trekbbs.com/showpost.php?p=11178615&postcount=686
http://www.trekbbs.com/showthread.php?p=11156252&highlight=filmmaking#post11156252
http://www.trekbbs.com/showthread.php?p=10533535&highlight=filmmaking#post10533535
http://www.trekbbs.com/showthread.php?p=9757426&highlight=filmmaking#post9757426
http://www.trekbbs.com/showthread.php?p=9170809&highlight=filmmaking#post9170809
http://www.trekbbs.com/showthread.php?p=11178615&highlight=filmmaking#post11178615

Grain of salt. Texas-sized.

 

[BigJake]

^ Uh, what's with the gratuitous twattery? I'm willing to trust that someone can be an accurate observer of patterns of development within fan film without themselves being a filmmaker. It's kind of like, say, you talking like someone who knows good writing from bad without being a writer. Does someone need to show up and snark "grain of salt, Texas-sized" every time you praise Maurice?

On the topic itself: interesting as a concept, but it seemed to be a design and visuals concept first and a story concept second. Also, ten-year-old Wesley Crusher as a lovable scamp on the Enterprise-C? No thanks.

 

[Jedi_Master]

Some perspective: I have been following Star Trek Fan Films and film groups for just over six years now.

The people who decide to make a film who are least likely to make one are people who have no film experience, no professional show business experience, and are not acting with a pre-organized group, such as an existing Star Trek Fan Club.

The people MOST likely to succeed in making a film have film-making experience, have made a previous Star Trek fan film, and have money and control over their time.

My guess is that less than one in four of the people in the first group ever produce a film. Some of those that do, do so after assisting another group and learning the ropes.

This sounded like a cool project. But I've learned not to get overly attached to planned films from individuals who have not produced a prior Star Trek Fan film. Which is not to say this wouldn't have been an awesome film, had it been made. I have listed it as long term hold or abandon. But not every abandon film stays abandon. Yorktown didn't. You just never know.

And yet you know nothing about filmmaking, a statement you've made yourself many times:

http://www.trekbbs.com/showpost.php?p=11178615&postcount=686
http://www.trekbbs.com/showthread.php?p=11156252&highlight=filmmaking#post11156252
http://www.trekbbs.com/showthread.php?p=10533535&highlight=filmmaking#post10533535
http://www.trekbbs.com/showthread.php?p=9757426&highlight=filmmaking#post9757426
http://www.trekbbs.com/showthread.php?p=9170809&highlight=filmmaking#post9170809
http://www.trekbbs.com/showthread.php?p=11178615&highlight=filmmaking#post11178615

Grain of salt. Texas-sized.

That's a rather long list of links.

Hobbies, hobbies are good.

Anywhooo

This section of the announcement made sense:

Close friends of mine will know that I am focused on a career transition into working as a Production Sound Mixer. So as much as I love this project, I can’t afford the time, energy, or the financial burden it takes to make this project come to fruition. So instead of stringing you along, I’ve decided that this is the best course of action.

Seems the creator didn't have the resources to complete the project, and I respect his candor in admitting that. Kudos to him.

 

[Karzak]

Agreed. It sucks, certainly, but one cannot hold against him his desire to advance his career, nor his desire to at least make public his decision and his reasons for it. Not that we are owed anything, but it's a sign of respect and maturity on his part. I wish him all the best.

 

[SuperSpaceMan]

Actually it seems, that this project was cancelled, not because of a lack of experience, or a lack of resources, rather, the rather rabid vitriol that is typically spewed out towards anything even remotely connected with JJ Trek (As it seems this film would have been set within the Context of the Nu Timeline.)

 

[Karzak]

Actually it seems, that this project was cancelled, not because of a lack of experience, or a lack of resources, rather, the rather rabid vitriol that is typically spewed out towards anything even remotely connected with JJ Trek (As it seems this film would have been set within the Context of the Nu Timeline.)

It goes both ways. There are fans who treat fan films like shit, railing and insulting and being entirely rude and vicious with their comments.

Likewise, there are those fan filmmakers who are their own worst public relations enemies, unable to handle ANY kind of commentary or critique, and whose nasty, biting demeanor is less than pleasant to behold.

Personally speaking, given how sensitive the entire community is and can be, I don't blame the guy one iota for getting out while he can. Trekkies are crazy!

 

[Maurice]

I think it was unnecessary to pillory Barb for her lack of filmmaking experience since she wasn't professing to be a filmmaker, merely observing what types of groups tend to actually complete anything.

And, hey, seriously, can everyone stop dragging my name into arguments I have nothing to do with? I make no claims to be some all-knowing guru that people must listen to. Like anyone here I state my opinions and take my lumps.

 

[SuperSpaceMan]

Actually it seems, that this project was cancelled, not because of a lack of experience, or a lack of resources, rather, the rather rabid vitriol that is typically spewed out towards anything even remotely connected with JJ Trek (As it seems this film would have been set within the Context of the Nu Timeline.)

It goes both ways. There are fans who treat fan films like shit, railing and insulting and being entirely rude and vicious with their comments.

Likewise, there are those fan filmmakers who are their own worst public relations enemies, unable to handle ANY kind of commentary or critique, and whose nasty, biting demeanor is less than pleasant to behold.

Personally speaking, given how sensitive the entire community is and can be, I don't blame the guy one iota for getting out while he can. Trekkies are crazy!

Any Artist who is going to put their art on display for public consumption needs to understand that there is gonna be criticism... That's just the way it is.

I like to write fanfic, but I don't want other people to criticize it, it's just for me to play out the stories i Have playing in my head, so I keep it to myself....

But I guess I can see how Fandom can certainly be rude and cruel unnecessarily towards any production....

I would just love to see a TNG era story told in the NU Timeline...

 

[BigJake]

And, hey, seriously, can everyone stop dragging my name into arguments I have nothing to do with?

Quite right, of course.

 

[MikeH92467]

And yet you know nothing about filmmaking, a statement you've made yourself many times:


Grain of salt. Texas-sized.

Where did THAT come from?

 

[Borgminister]

Yeah, just seemed like an observation, that's all.

 

[137th Gebirg]

Actually it seems, that this project was cancelled, not because of a lack of experience, or a lack of resources, rather, the rather rabid vitriol that is typically spewed out towards anything even remotely connected with JJ Trek (As it seems this film would have been set within the Context of the Nu Timeline.)

This is precisely what I got out of the blog post as well, specifically:

Sadly, STF and the greater Star Trek community as whole has become a negative force in my life. It has become harder and harder to ignore the bickering, posturing, and divisiveness that is plaguing ST fandom in general. I feel as though the waters of the community have turned toxic, and that, coupled with my focus on furthering my professional career has brought me to this decision.

Yes, a new job was another big part of the decision, but it looks like the other *half* of the decision. I think we can all attest to the "toxic bickering" we've seen amongst the fandom, between "classic" fans and "Abrams" fans as well as between individual fan production staffs. It is quite sad that a project of any promise can be so easily torn asunder by such infantile behavior, either from within or without.

The fact that he even felt it necessary to add this parting disclaimer to his post is even more telling of the absurdity he endured:

PS - Just to thwart ill-informed rumors; we have never been contacted by, in partnership with, or have had any connection whatsoever with CBS/Paramount/Bad Robot.

I wish Dan & his crew well.

 

[martok2112]

Although I am unaware of this project, I read the sentiments he's been quoted on in various posts in this thread, and I can already completely understand scrapping the project.
A. Career.
B. Vitriolic fans.

I wish him the best in his future endeavors.