Despite a dearth of speculation about Kara "Daniel" Thrace's phantom penis?
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Needs more Kara "Daniel" Thrace's phantom penis.
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Star Trek Fundamentalism
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Who needs more cowbell?
Needs more Kara "Daniel" Thrace's phantom penis.
If that's not a signature, I don't know what is.
"Star Trek: The Phantom Penis."
There, the circle is now complete. The movie has a subtitle, and one that should make the "Abrams is turning ST into SW" crowd happy.
"It's only due to my genetically superior intellect....that has allowed Trek to surviiiiive"
I think its a hard call - having not seen it yet. They went for Girls in Long shirts version of Federation. I was really hoping they wouldnt do that - I wanted this to be what it was: An alternate branch of reality stemming from the Archer's Enterprise - Phoenix First contact Incident timeline branch where instead of that Kirk version of our History where the NAZIs damned the Mediteranean in 1943 and the Ubermen clones were deported-or fled on the Botony Bay, and the Enterprise Crew wear skirts - that we were looking at a more Paranoid-Millitary Startrek Reality where Archer and the NOxious Enterprise were the Legacy of this new Trek Future.
I mean realy...I would have loved to have seen the "Paranoid Militant Humans" from Archer's Earth rise toward the innevitable bow down before our mighty warships mentality. I would have loved to have found a Black Martha Washington as Captain of the Enterprise ordered to hunt down and destroy a Klingon Colony World and make it look like the Romulans are making a move...
The rest of your point is now moot. For you have no say on what is or
isn't Trek, especialy since... it is.
But for the sake of... something; agreement with "The Historical Documents"
does not make it Trek. The setting, story and characters and well... title, do.
number6
Vice Admiral
The rest of your point is now mute. For you have no say on what is or
isn't Trek, especialy since... it is.
But for the sake of... something; agreement with "The Historical Documents"
does not make it Trek. The setting, story and characters and well... title, do.
Moot.
Most fans are anything but mute.
Captain X
Rear Admiral
Hmmm... "Star Trek Fundamentalism" Let's see, you have a group of people saying that if you are critical of a part of the franchise, that you aren't "really" a fan. Yeah, I'd say that description fits, though it's directed at the wrong group of people. What I find most interesting about whiny threads like this is that for all the whiny bitchy fans whining and bitching about the movie for whatever reason they don't like it, you have this other group of fans who whine and bitch about the other fans who are whining and bitching. I wish I could say that this was something new, but this has pretty much been the case for everything in the franchise - you have a critical group and a group that likes to call those people "bashers", whether they actually are or if they go through any effort to be thoughtful and explain what they don't like about something.
Abrams does not have over 9000 penises, and they are not raping anyone's childhood.
Star Trek fans are allowed to not like a movie/series/episode(s) and still call themselves fans - it's called having an opinion, and it won't affect the outcome of the new movie no matter what it is and who has it.
Flash =/ good, just look at Nemesis.
I feel the strange urge to go out and buy a new Mac.
That is all, you can continue your pathetic whining now.
Abrams does not have over 9000 penises, and they are not raping anyone's childhood.
Star Trek fans are allowed to not like a movie/series/episode(s) and still call themselves fans - it's called having an opinion, and it won't affect the outcome of the new movie no matter what it is and who has it.
Flash =/ good, just look at Nemesis.
I feel the strange urge to go out and buy a new Mac.
That is all, you can continue your pathetic whining now.
Still can't believe someone with no experience can...at all honestly claim they can succeed in what they say about if they had the chance, they could make a new and exciting trek film or series that would please trekkers and non-trekkers.
No experience, no proof, not even a tiny drama award...no dice buddy.
No experience, no proof, not even a tiny drama award...no dice buddy.
Uh...yeah...huh?
Plumster
Commander
Leave it to Cogley to sum up in a sentence what many posters were no doubt thinking.
Personally, I'm good with the change. I say, let's give it a go - there is nothing left to lose. Because if this movie is not a success, there won't be any more Trek for ANYONE to bitch and moan about for a good while to come, if ever.
I've pretty much stayed away from spoilers as best as I was able, given that I'm a mod in this forum....but I know this: J.J. has proven with Lost that he knows what he's doing - he knows how to make quality entertainment, and he understands how to create excitement and drama.
Frankly, I can't think of anyone who, at this point, I'd rather have at the helm to try and revive the franchise.
He'll give it his best shot, and hopefully it will be a success. Canon violations or no canon violations.
The most important thing, at this point, is that this is a great movie that will keep those seats filled for weeks and weeks....and make craploads of money as a result.
Then we can talk about canon violations.
Because it will be only then that there will the hope of any new canon to violate.
Irritating hey?
It matters not because in 40 years when we celebrate JJ's Trek's 40th anniversary, you and yours will be nothing more than a mere footnote.
In fact - I propose all Trek films after 1997 and before 2009 are ignored and struck from the memory/official record. Anything from Voyager onwards is also forgotten and were never ever there.
Ohh - I feel like a Cambodian dictator - and the zealots have entered the killing fields.
Henceforth in fact - we are now in year 1 (001 for the zealots) and from year 1 all things Trek may begin again.
darkwing_duck1
Vice Admiral
I am amazed that this thread has been left open...it's nothing but a 10 page running troll/flame-fest against anyone that refuses to take the Mark of the Adams, led by Plumster and Starship Polaris (aka Dennis).
I thought fan-bashing of ANY stripe was verboten under the rules...
Mods, do you frakkin' job already!
I thought fan-bashing of ANY stripe was verboten under the rules...
Mods, do you frakkin' job already!
You know...
Closing this will just allow flames to spread elsewhere as we've seen. No amount of locks have stopped the hostility on the topics of new vs old, etc.
Smartest action? leave this thread open for the flames, may have the odd chance of reducing flames in new threads.
Closing this will just allow flames to spread elsewhere as we've seen. No amount of locks have stopped the hostility on the topics of new vs old, etc.
Smartest action? leave this thread open for the flames, may have the odd chance of reducing flames in new threads.
Plumster
Commander
No-one's complaining in the great scheme of this thread though are they Darkwing?
One or two have have bitched about it but that's more about the intractability of their position as I believe they are just trying to spoil the debate by making it about the lowest common denominater and accusing anyone who disagrees with their version of Trek of flaming.
All I've said is wipe out a few years of the pants that some of the TNG movies were along with Voayger and Enterprise. What's the harm?
These are the tactics of the zealot I'm afraid.
Actually there is an interesting debate and a few delicious sub-plots going on.
One or two have have bitched about it but that's more about the intractability of their position as I believe they are just trying to spoil the debate by making it about the lowest common denominater and accusing anyone who disagrees with their version of Trek of flaming.
All I've said is wipe out a few years of the pants that some of the TNG movies were along with Voayger and Enterprise. What's the harm?
These are the tactics of the zealot I'm afraid.
Actually there is an interesting debate and a few delicious sub-plots going on.
Star Trek Zealots...hrmm....I suggest tossing the star wars christmas special between them. That should make them back off in fear for enough time to see some productivity return.
if indeed there are zealots here....I just mostly sense people afraid of change, which is quite human.
if indeed there are zealots here....I just mostly sense people afraid of change, which is quite human.
I could name 2 or 3 people who easily fall into the zealot category. For the rest, I think you are right.
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