Star Trek Finally Reveals Uhura Became Captain of Her Own Starship

[Dukhat]

I like that the USS Leondegrance was specifically mentioned as going to the Small Magellanic Cloud (must be some previously unmentioned stable wormhole going there to do it in a five-year mission seeing as how it's 200,000 LY away, and I guess it bypasses the Galactic Barrier) and making over a hundred first contact missions there (well, to be specific I like the 100 first contact missions part, more than going to the Small Magellanic Cloud on a five-year mission in the late-23rd / early-24th century, which is a little whack, but it's just a background plaque).

It's really annoying that they used a John Eaves concept design for a Sovereign-era starship as a ship from the 2330's. It was first used as set dressing for one of Picard's awards, and when they decided to use the same ship as Uhura's command, they didn't bother to change the design. It's trivial, I know, but it still annoys me.

 

[Cpt. MAGA Man]

I can see Uhura as captain of a training vessel. Not head of SI(some novels).

Didn't Uhura at the beginning of The Undiscovered Country say she had been at a cadet seminar?

 

[F. King Daniel]

So it's not even their canon, let alone TOS canon. It's the non-humorous equivalent of a behind the scenes in-joke. Okay.

Another thing: are we really wishing a woman well if we want her entire life to be consumed by Starfleet careerism, flying around in a tin can a hundred light years from home? Will her Captain's Personal Logs love her when she's frail? Will they hold her hand on her death bed?

How empty and cold does a woman's life have to be, to win our feminist admiration?

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Are women only of worth if they have families??

It's really annoying that they used a John Eaves concept design for a Sovereign-era starship as a ship from the 2330's. It was first used as set dressing for one of Picard's awards, and when they decided to use the same ship as Uhura's command, they didn't bother to change the design. It's trivial, I know, but it still annoys me.

I saw it as a Shenzhou-era design, myself. So an old rustbucket by post-STVI-era

 

[XCV330]

I saw it as a Shenzhou-era design, myself. So an old rustbucket by post-STVI-era

What it looked like to me, too. Some Klingon War era repurposed ship.

 

[1001001]

A woman who devotes her life to that career wouldn't have time to reproduce at all.

I guess Captain Freeman didn’t get the memo.

 

[Dukhat]

I saw it as a Shenzhou-era design, myself. So an old rustbucket by post-STVI-era

The similarities are negligible at best, other than the overall design of 'saucer with nacelles on pylons.'

 

[valkyrie013]

True, not every character has to be a captain, or do they even want to. Checkov was a commander, 1st officer on the Reliant in 2285, by 2293, he's still a commander, after almost 30 years of service. Sulu only a captain after 25 years of service.

No reason Uhura has to command, never had her in charge/in the captains seat in the show.
I could see her at the academy, teaching communications. Maybe getting a burr sometimes to get out into the galaxy, and take a mission, or training cruise occasionally. Not in command, and defiantly not in charge of Starfleet Intel.

 

[XCV330]

I guess Captain Freeman didn’t get the memo.

in fairness, I get the feeling Freeman seldom actually reads memos.

 

[dupersuper]

This is not really a TOS subject. Picard, Discovery, and the rest of it can do their own thing, write their own canon, but it doesn't connect with TOS canon. They've gone too far afield to be anything but their own separate universe.

Wishing for a thing does not make it so...

 

[TREK_GOD_1]

New content which rarely aligns with what came before it is effectively making its own branch or universe, but some are free to believe its all one, tight continuity...

 

[Mudd]

...some are free to believe its all one, tight continuity...

While others choose to believe, despite the preponderance of evidence, myriad counterexamples, and plain good sense, that once upon a time Star Trek was all one, tight continuity.

 

[Laura Cynthia Chambers]

Honestly, with all the time-bending anomalies, medical/transporter tech, time travel, and alternate realities one can get stuck in, you could have an entire life and family in no actual time at all. You could even have a holo-family like the doctor in Voyager that can pick up where they left off whenever you have free time, or be programmed to continue while you're not there.

They're talking about virtual kids now for goodness sakes. Not the same, granted, but people will do whatever they want and are able to.

 

[TREK_GOD_1]

While others choose to believe, despite the preponderance of evidence, myriad counterexamples, and plain good sense, that once upon a time Star Trek was all one, tight continuity.

I doubt many believed that, since as early as TNG, continuity issues popped up, triggering fan complaints.

 

[M'Sharak]

Didn't Uhura at the beginning of The Undiscovered Country say she had been at a cadet seminar?

Called away before it started, perhaps:

UHURA: This had better be good. I'm supposed to be chairing a seminar at the Academy.

The Star Trek Movie Transcripts - Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country (chakoteya.net)

 

[Locutus of Bored]

New content which rarely aligns with what came before it is effectively making its own branch or universe, but some are free to believe its all one, tight continuity...

I don't think anyone believes it's a "tight continuity" as in completely consistent with itself or what came before (not even TOS was totally consistent with itself, and no large franchise made over a period of decades and multiple series/films is --which is not a criticism, just reality), but I do believe most think it's a flexible sliding continuity that adapts with the times but takes place in a single shared universe, with the exception of the peripheral Mirror Universe episodes and Kelvinverse films, and others that are specifically stated as being set in alternate universes.

 

[F. King Daniel]

I doubt many believed that, since as early as TNG, continuity issues popped up, triggering fan complaints.

As early as TNG? James R. Kirk and his Vucanian first officer (with "some human blood" in his ancestry) would like a word with you.

 

[TREK_GOD_1]

As early as TNG? James R. Kirk and his Vucanian first officer (with "some human blood" in his ancestry) would like a word with you.

I'm referring to lack of continuity from one production to another.

 

[Herbert]

Assuming the career path for starship captains and admirals is all-consuming, yes. But it hurts women even more.

An officer on that path, with so many long deep-space deployments, might have time to win someone's heart and get married. And a man can get his wife pregnant during a two-week leave. But the children will barely know him and might not care about him much when he's old. Men pay a high price for these ambitions. Kirk alluded to it a time or two in The Wrath of Khan and Generations. He's lonely.

A woman who devotes her life to that career wouldn't have time to reproduce at all. A baby and then childcare would cause her to fall too far behind in the competition for command chairs. So she ends up even lonelier than Kirk, due to the facts of life. If you're honest about human life, it's inescapable.

You do realize that having children is not a goal for everyone, right?
You do realize that not all humans need to be in a relationship/marriage to have a fulfilling life, right?

 

[Herbert]

I'm referring to lack of continuity from one production to another.

I like continuity. I prefer having a consistent universe told in a way that makes sense and connects back to what came before instead of this fractured nonsense where every show is an alternate timeline unto itself.

That being said, I realize that's not a motivation or goal for the folks making these shows. It is what it is.

 

[Dukhat]

I like continuity. I prefer having a consistent universe told in a way that makes sense and connects back to what came before instead of this fractured nonsense where every show is an alternate timeline unto itself.

That being said, I realize that's not a motivation or goal for the folks making these shows. It is what it is.

That is the sort of problem that crops up when people decide to make prequels to older works, with today’s production values. Unless it’s something like the Disney Star Wars tv shows where they’re purposely striving for the same look and feel of the original trilogy, the people making those prequels want to put their own spin on things. As I’ve mentioned before, there’s a difference between not staying consistent with 50+ years of work, and not staying consistent on purpose.