I recently binge watched Game of Thrones and was actually going to start a "Cuntdown" to keep track of how many times they used that word. I think the women used it more than the men!
Star Trek Discovery to drop F-bomb (at least twice)
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I recently binge watched Game of Thrones and was actually going to start a "Cuntdown" to keep track of how many times they used that word. I think the women used it more than the men!
Let's not pretend that profanity is in some way new to Star Trek, because it really isn't. Are we forgetting:
"We're through running from these bastards!" (Riker, Star Trek: Insurrection)
Bullshit!" (Lily, Star Trek: First Contact)
"Oh shit!" (Data, Star Trek: Generations)
"You Klingon bastard, you've killed my son! YOU KLINGON BASTARD, YOU'VE... KILLED MY SON!!! You Klingon bastard..." (Kirk, Star Trek III: The Search for Spock)
And that's just a few examples I can think of off the top of my head. I'm sure there are more. LIke I said, profanity isn't new to Star Trek, and even if it were, it certainly isn't new to television or movies. I'm pretty sure you're allowed at least one utterance of the word fuck, and as many utterances of shit and bastard as you like in a PG-13 film.
"We're through running from these bastards!" (Riker, Star Trek: Insurrection)
Bullshit!" (Lily, Star Trek: First Contact)
"Oh shit!" (Data, Star Trek: Generations)
"You Klingon bastard, you've killed my son! YOU KLINGON BASTARD, YOU'VE... KILLED MY SON!!! You Klingon bastard..." (Kirk, Star Trek III: The Search for Spock)
And that's just a few examples I can think of off the top of my head. I'm sure there are more. LIke I said, profanity isn't new to Star Trek, and even if it were, it certainly isn't new to television or movies. I'm pretty sure you're allowed at least one utterance of the word fuck, and as many utterances of shit and bastard as you like in a PG-13 film.
Yes but all those examples are from movies, not from the hundreds of TV episodes which is the true home of Star Trek.
I think expecting them to tell a tense, dramatic ongoing story without resorting to the use of at least some profanity is completely unrealistic. People swear in difficult situations, it's human nature. That hasn't changed over the past 238 years, and it's certainly not going to change over the next 238 years either.
This.
Who cares? This is yet another trivial example of Discovery going where everyone else has been for decades.
Oh, and most little kids are exposed to lots of profanity. That's not good, or bad. It's just true.
This was one of my misgivings about Discovery being TV-MA. Yeah, profanity is part of daily life. Even the American president can't get through a speech without losing control of his potty mouth. But you can tell a good, entertaining story without plumbing Carlin's Seven Words You Can't Say On TV. Dropping the F-bomb is a pointless exercise in being "edgy". If they insist on this, my interest will wane quickly. Moreso if there's excessive violence.
One wonders how Shakespeare or Dickens managed to maintain a modicum of decorum, then.
Did Shakespeare? I know Chaucer was pretty profane.
Willy was, in fact, fond of invoking God in ways that were socially out of bounds in his day.
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I'm not, and it's the main thing that makes this seem like a double-dumbass move. I have no real problem with profanity, but canon violations are unacceptable.
The Miller's Tale, at least, was pretty ribald for the time. So now we've lowered the bar to shit people were doing 800 years ago.
Yes, Billy Shakes pushed the envelope in some ways. Chaucer was out on his own limb.
Fine, I'm being a prude. But all the same, this move comes very close to CBS killing Discovery in the cradle for me. It's pointless and puerile.
Just because Dickens avoided the use of profanity to spare the delicate sensibilities of Victorian England doesn't mean people didn't swear.
I'm not debating whether or not people swore. Of course they did. But that has nothing to do with being able to tell a compelling, dramatic story without resorting to profanity to "enhance" the narrative. It's completely unnecessary.
Meh, Star Trek novels have made profanity a regular thing, including a few uses of the word fuck that I really don't give a shit. Profanity is a fact of life, deal with it.
We obviously have entirely different attitudes to swearing. I'm Scottish, and we tend to view profanity as nothing out of the ordinary, either on television or in real life. I don't find it offensive or puerile, because it's how real people talk, and I think entertainment should reflect that.
Profanity is a fact of life, I cannot deny. I am not compelled to invite it into my home, however. I hope you all enjoy Discovery. Apparently I'll be giving it a miss.
Space the final f***ing frontier. These are the voyages of the f***ing Starship Discovery. It's f***ing mission to explore strange new f***ing worlds. To f***ing seek out new life and new f***ing civilizations. To boldy go where no one has f***ing gone before.
Perhaps someone can post the exact times of the swearing in episodes, and you can cover your ears at the right moment.
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