Star Trek Discovery Leaving Netflix For Paramount+ Internationally, season 4 global launch in 2022

[TedShatner10]

About the legality, they can pretty much do whatever they want but I wouldn’t be surprised if some Netflix customer could won a court case in certain jurisdictions. Even so, I hardly think they’d get much more than a small refund, so it wouldn’t be worth it.

Legal doesn't mean it's actually right or rational, and ViacomCBS, its Nat. Amusements holding company, plus Netflix to a lesser extent, are all looking quite stupid, throttling the goose laying the golden eggs, and painting themselves into a corner by having too many rival streaming services, with the actual content getting stretched too thin.

It emerged as a concern some years ago, but now most of the audience is feeling the pinch from streaming service pissing matches like this and its damaging IP brands (Trek got suddenly denied 90% of its global audience for 12 to 18 months easily, if we're lucky).

 

[fireproof78]

People bitched about cable too. They wanted a la carte menu in their entertainment. Now there are too many?

 

[TedShatner10]

Remember cable died out in part because people paid through the nose for what was eventually revealed as overhyped, vapid content.

Streaming looks like the future but we're now shown the limits of subscription loyalty and IP ownership, then we're reintroduced to the advantages of physical ownership and why piracy is still relevant.

 

[fireproof78]

Remember cable died out in part because people paid through the nose for what was eventually revealed as overhyped, vapid content.

Streaming looks like the future but we're now shown the limits of subscription loyalty and IP ownership, then we're reintroduced to the advantages of physical ownership and why piracy is still relevant.

I don't remember. I never had cable. I just heard plenty of complaints about it.

I never saw subscription as a loyalty thing. Pay for one, cancel it, move on. I'm guessing that model is not proving to be as sustainable as initially thought. Piracy will always be relevant because people will never want to pay for something they deem as "should be free." Which is pretty common.

 

[TedShatner10]

Not necessarily loyalty, but a degree of commitment ("Hey, I already got Netflix, why should I pony up for Paramount+?").

 

[fireproof78]

Not necessarily loyalty, but a degree of commitment ("Hey, I already got Netflix, why should I pony up for Paramount+?").

Ok. I'm a month to month person. Pay for one then another. Watch what I want and move on. But, there are few shows on I must see so perhaps I am a poor example.

 

[Gingerbread Demon]

What a joke- in Australia Paramount + you can’t even watch it on most Televisions.

Exactly......... I'm pretty pissed about all this and my new TV hasn't got that channel yet or if they will ever add it.

 

[Agony_Boothb]

Jeez, say what you will about DSCO, but the National Amusements/ViacomCBS megacorp (still thinking it's 1996) pulled a real fucking scumbag move in the past 48 hours to fuel their commitment to the streaming service arms race that could easily backfire, when it's become a saturated market already dominated by Netflix/Amazon/Disney (and maybe Netflix got cocky after getting bolstered by Squid Game's surprise monster success).

To be honest I think Netflix is the one that is going to be in trouble, once other studios start trying to make there own streaming services or begin allying with Apple TV. As studios begin removing their content, Netflix is going to actually need to start producing quality content of their own to keep people interested. Star Trek was the only reason I had netflix and there is very little else on there to hold my interest. I subscribed to Paramount + through my Apple TV subscription and now I get two channels for the same price I paid for Netflix.

 

[Bornin1980something]

I have so many mixed emotions, heartbroken about Discovery but I got a dream job today so things kinda evened out.

Congratulations, I'm sure all on Discovery would be very proud.

 

[PiotrB]

I trust Netflix even less.

This is not, in the least, a question of trust. Everything we know about the situation comes from a ViacomCBS press release in which ViacomCBS wanted to show itself in the best possible light. I guess if Netflix was at fault ViacomCBS wouldn't have issued a press release in which it takes the fall for itself.

 

[Locutus of Bored]

Congratulations, I'm sure all on Discovery would be very proud.

Damn, salty.
Congratulations on the job, Agony_Booth.

 

[TedShatner10]

To be honest I think Netflix is the one that is going to be in trouble, once other studios start trying to make there own streaming services or begin allying with Apple TV. As studios begin removing their content, Netflix is going to actually need to start producing quality content of their own to keep people interested.

Like I said, Netflix losing 3rd party content has been a concern for some years already, though their own content has been enough of a draw, even if it's the strategy of throwing stuff at the wall to see if it sticks (but Squid Game definitely stuck).

The other content creators (like ViacomCBS) got jealous/greedy and despised Netflix taking a cut, so they pull off blantant anti-consumer nonsense like this by shunting off DSCO to their own pissant streaming service that may not get off the ground (then Netflix scoops it back up anyway).

 

[alex08060]

What a Romulan move, I’m definitely going downloading because that app isn’t coming to my country for years so it’s their big loss. Heck I’m not even going to get the subscription even there is the app in my nation because they care more about money more than their fan base and common sense.

 

[alex08060]

What a mess. Delayed launch which will only drive people towards torrents. In addition, from 2022 onwards there will be access via Sky in several countries in the EU and in a larger one a new SkyShowtime service will be created from scratch. So congratulations to ViacomCBS and to Netflix for the PR.

Actually torrent is outdated, there are some oversea sites that has streaming service so no downloading needed.

 

[alex08060]

For fuck's sake, for the most of Europe, including Hungary, we don't even have any specifics other than "Early 2022", which entirely depends on when exactly SkyShowtime gets an approval from the local authorities to start its service. Knowing the speed at which the cogs of my local authorities operate, not to mention the overt bribery and the constantly changing, unpredictable legal landscape, we might be lucky if we get it sometime around fall or early winter next year.

Well, at least it's going to be a streaming service only so I won't have to switch cable and internet service providers (cable and internet is usually in the same package here) if and when it's launched. Hooray.

As a Star Trek fan that leaves us only one option.

 

[alex08060]

As of today all the official pics and clips they're putting on Twitter are geoblocked as well, so they show as blank rectangles with "this video is not available in your country." Way to make friends and draw customers.

Oh, and for numbers fun, Trek was watched on Netflix in 190 countries. Pee+ aims to be operating in 45 countries by the end of 2022- making three quarters of their show's market dependent on piracy if they want to keep up. Brilliant work there.

Well they don’t have common sense which is why downloading is going to be such a huge problem.

 

[alex08060]

I only had Netflix for Discovery.

Note the past tense ‘had’.

Still keeping Netflix because they have many good shows such as squid games so it’s not Netflix that’s losing out because it still owns the world except China. I’m going to have to go Bajor resistance to watch disco because of the cardassian union move.

 

[TedShatner10]

Yeah, Netflix (despite its set backs and issues) is still a vastly larger and more mature streaming venue than newer upstart Paramount+, which is not guaranteed of expanding into many overseas markets like Disney+ did (also even Disney's success was almost a fluke with the Covid lockdowns boosting their subscriptions in '20).

Nat. Amusements/ViacomCBS unnecessarily fucked everything and everybody over and come across as the more impatient, senile manbabies here.

 

[Timtamttime]

There are so many times when I wish American decision makers would remember that there are lots of people outside of the States, too, and this is definitely one of those times. But then again, an American senator recently called Canada a “failed country”, so if someone like him made this decision, then we really shouldn’t be surprised. Ironically, he said it was because Canada has two languages pitted against one another, so it’s like a tribal warfare. I think it’s a case of the pot calling the kettle black…. https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/speech-congress-canada-1.6253849

 

[flandry84]

I’m not just quitting Netflix out of pique.
Most times I go on there,scroll and scroll through stuff in which I don’t have time to invest in or stuff I don’t care about.

YMMV but the concept of Squid game strikes me as cancerous.